Re: 答复:About "Context-switch storm"problem

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1- Of course, we could. Problem appeared in both 8.1.8 and 8.1.15 after
an initial upgrade.
Today database is not online due to a migration to another technology.
It's not our database (a customer one) so we have no access to it at
this moment.

2- One of the major on-line shops of Spain. This only happened under
heavy load condition (that's under Christmas campaign), with a lot
queries per minutes, some of then heavy search on database using tsearch
modules. Under low load, there was no problem.

After upgrading to 8.2 and splitting our database in two (one database
only for catalog searches, another database for standard operation)
problem disappeared.

Our context switches where about 5000-10000 per second or less under low
load scaling up to 300.000 per second under heavy load. Most of CPU time
was spent on context switches and not on operating DB.
The database was 20 gigabytes size over a Quad Intel Xeon-DP (HT
enabled) at 2.6Ghz with 16GB RAM memory running on a Red Hat 3.X with
kernel 2.4.

First we upgraded to Red Hat 5 in order to get a kernel 2.6, then we
installed postgres 8.2 and finally we splitted database.
Typical load decreased from 80-100% on high load periods to 5% or less
per server with these changes. Context switches drop to 5000 or less per
second.

I'm think that splitting database wouldn't have been needed, but anyway
the changes were made to deal with higher loads in future... although
six months later the shop was migrated to SQL Server + ASP.NET
technology (decision was taken one year before and was not due to these
problems :-) ).

The problem was due to several factors: kernel 2.4 + postgresql 8.2 +
Intel Xeon DP

-----Original Message-----
From: =E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB <yongwei.huang [at] gmail.com>
To: 'I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala' <imartinez [at] vectorsf.com>
Cc: 'pgsql-admin' <pgsql-admin [at] postgresql.org>
Subject: =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: About "Context-switch storm" problem
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 10:43:55 +0800

Dear I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala=EF=BC=8C

Thank you for your replay and advice.

My company is a software application vendor, and our customer is useing
PostgreSQL 8.1.3.

When our application is runing , the DB sluggish suddenly and
application stop.

To prove that it is not the problem of the application ,We need some
evidence to certified this version have problem and show to our
customer.

And Can I ask you several questions?



1=E3=80=81 Can you recreate the "Context-switch storm" in the your old
version PostgreSQL 8.1.15 ?

2=E3=80=81 If you can ,could you please tell me your test case =EF=BC=9F



Thank you so much=EF=BC=81



Best regards,

Ray Huang




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Hi, Yongwei

We finally upgraded our database server to last PostgreSQL 8.2
available.

Since 8.2 does not include any major change (8.3 does indeed a lot of
them) we had no problem with this upgrade. And believe, our database was
really complex. About 600 tables with 300 stored procedures, wide use of
embedded functions from different packages (including tsearch2) and lot
of triggers and views. Not problems at all.

Migrating to 8.3 or 8.4 is another history. So, my recommendation is to
migrate to 8.2.17

-----Original Message-----
From: =E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB<yongwei.huang [at] gmail.com>
To: imartinez [at] vectorsf.com
Subject: About "Context-switch storm" problem
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:31:54 +0800

Hello=EF=BC=8CI=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala !



I read your mail about =E2=80=9CContext-switch storm in 8.1.15=E2=80=9D f=
rom postgres
website.

I think I meet the same problem as you now .

Recently my company=E2=80=99s postgres DB server sluggish suddenly with =
a hight
Context-switching value as below:



2010-04-07 04:03:15 procs memory swap
io system cpu

2010-04-07 04:03:15 r b swpd free buff cache si so bi
bo in cs us sy id wa

2010-04-07 14:04:27 3 0 0 2361272 272684 3096148 0 0 3
1445 973 14230 7 8 84 0

2010-04-07 14:05:27 2 0 0 2361092 272684 3096220 0 0 3
1804 1029 31852 8 10 81 1

2010-04-07 14:06:27 1 0 0 2362236 272684 3096564 0 0 3
1865 1135 19689 9 9 81 0

2010-04-07 14:07:27 1 0 0 2348400 272720 3101836 0 0 3
1582 1182 149461 15 17 67 0

2010-04-07 14:08:27 3 0 0 2392028 272840 3107600 0 0 3
3093 1275 203196 24 23 53 1

2010-04-07 14:09:27 3 1 0 2386224 272916 3107960 0 0 3
2486 1331 193299 26 22 52 0

2010-04-07 14:10:27 34 0 0 2332320 272980 3107944 0 0 3
1692 1082 214309 24 22 54 0

2010-04-07 14:11:27 1 0 0 2407432 273028 3108092 0 0 6
2770 1540 76643 29 13 57 1

2010-04-07 14:12:27 9 0 0 2358968 273104 3108388 0 0 7
2639 1466 10603 22 6 72 1





I

May I know your solution after that ?







Thank you !

Best wishes,

Ray Huang







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1- Of course, we could. Problem appeared in both 8.1.8 and 8.1.15 after an initial upgrade.<BR>
Today database is not online due to a migration to another technology. It's not our database (a customer one) so we have no access to it at this moment. <BR>
<BR>
2- One of the major on-line shops of Spain. This only happened under heavy load condition (that's under Christmas campaign), with a lot queries per minutes, some of then heavy search on database using tsearch modules. Under low load, there was no problem.<BR>
<BR>
After upgrading to 8.2 and splitting our database in two (one database only for catalog searches, another database for standard operation) problem disappeared.<BR>
<BR>
Our context switches where about 5000-10000 per second or less under low load scaling up to 300.000 per second under heavy load. Most of CPU time was spent on context switches and not on operating DB.<BR>
The database was 20 gigabytes size over a Quad Intel Xeon-DP (HT enabled) at 2.6Ghz with 16GB RAM memory running on a Red Hat 3.X with kernel 2.4.<BR>
<BR>
First we upgraded to Red Hat 5 in order to get a kernel 2.6, then we installed postgres 8.2 and finally we splitted database.<BR>
Typical load decreased from 80-100% on high load periods to 5% or less per server with these changes. Context switches drop to 5000 or less per second.<BR>
<BR>
I'm think that splitting database wouldn't have been needed, but anyway the changes were made to deal with higher loads in future... although six months later the shop was migrated to SQL Server + ASP.NET technology (decision was taken one year before and was not due to these problems :-) ).<BR>
<BR>
The problem was due to several factors: kernel 2.4 + postgresql 8.2 + Intel Xeon DP  <BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From</B>: 黄永卫 <<A HREF="mailto:%3d%3fUTF-8%3fQ%3f%3dE9%3dBB%3d84%3dE6%3dB0%3dB8%3dE5%3d8D%3dAB%3f%3d%20%3cyongwei.huang [at] gmail.com%3e">yongwei.huang [at] gmail.com</A>><BR>
<B>To</B>: 'Iñigo Martinez Lasala' <<A HREF="mailto:%3d%3fISO-8859-1%3fQ%3f%3d27I%3dF1igo%3f%3d%20Martinez%20Lasala'%20%3cimartinez [at] vectorsf.com%3e">imartinez [at] vectorsf.com</A>><BR>
<B>Cc</B>: 'pgsql-admin' <<A HREF="mailto:'pgsql-admin'%20%3cpgsql-admin [at] postgresql.org%3e">pgsql-admin [at] postgresql.org</A>><BR>
<B>Subject</B>: 答复: About "Context-switch storm" problem<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Mon, 31 May 2010 10:43:55 +0800<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Dear Iñigo Martinez Lasala,</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">    Thank you for your replay and advice. </FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">My company is a software application vendor, and our customer  is useing PostgreSQL 8.1.3.</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">When our application is runing , the DB sluggish suddenly and application stop.</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To <A HREF="javascript:;">prove</A> that it is not the problem of the application ,We need some evidence to certified this version have problem and show to our customer.</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">    And Can  I ask you  <A HREF="javascript:;">several</A>  questions?</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> </FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">1、</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="1">  </FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">Can you recreate the  "Context-switch storm" in the  your old version PostgreSQL 8.1.15 ?</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">2、</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="1">  </FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">If you can ,could you please tell me your test case ?</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> </FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thank you so much!</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> </FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Best regards,</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Ray Huang</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT><BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="2">发件人:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> Iñigo Martinez Lasala [mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com] </FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2">发送时间:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> 2010年5月28日 15:43</FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2">收件人:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> 黄永卫</FONT><BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="2">主题:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> Re: About "Context-switch storm" problem</FONT><BR>
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Hi, Yongwei<BR>
<BR>
We finally upgraded our database server to last PostgreSQL 8.2 available.<BR>
<BR>
Since 8.2 does not include any major change (8.3 does indeed a lot of them) we had no problem with this upgrade. And believe, our database was really complex. About 600 tables with 300 stored procedures, wide use of embedded functions from different packages (including tsearch2) and lot of triggers and views. Not problems at all. <BR>
<BR>
Migrating to 8.3 or 8.4 is another history. So, my recommendation is to migrate to 8.2.17<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From</B>: 黄永卫<<A HREF="mailto:%3d%3fUTF-8%3fQ%3f%3dE9%3dBB%3d84%3dE6%3dB0%3dB8%3dE5%3d8D%3dAB%3f%3d%20%3cyongwei.huang [at] gmail.com%3e">yongwei.huang [at] gmail.com</A>><BR>
<B>To</B>: <A HREF="mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com">imartinez [at] vectorsf.com</A><BR>
<B>Subject</B>: About "Context-switch storm" problem<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:31:54 +0800<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">Hello</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080">,Iñigo Martinez Lasala !</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">    </FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">I read your mail about “Context-switch storm in 8.1.15” from postgres website.</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">I think I meet the same problem as you now .</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">Recently my company’s  postgres DB server sluggish suddenly with a hight Context-switching value as below:</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 04:03:15 procs                      memory      swap          io     system         cpu</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 04:03:15  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy id wa</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:04:27  3  0      0 2361272 272684 3096148    0    0     3  1445  973 14230  7  8 84  0</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:05:27  2  0      0 2361092 272684 3096220    0    0     3  1804 1029 31852  8 10 81  1</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:06:27  1  0      0 2362236 272684 3096564    0    0     3  1865 1135 19689  9  9 81  0</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:07:27  1  0      0 2348400 272720 3101836    0    0     3  1582 1182 149461 15 17 67  0</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:08:27  3  0      0 2392028 272840 3107600    0    0     3  3093 1275 203196 24 23 53  1</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:09:27  3  1      0 2386224 272916 3107960    0    0     3  2486 1331 193299 26 22 52  0</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:10:27 34  0      0 2332320 272980 3107944    0    0     3  1692 1082 214309 24 22 54  0</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:11:27  1  0      0 2407432 273028 3108092    0    0     6  2770 1540 76643 29 13 57  1</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">2010-04-07 14:12:27  9  0      0 2358968 273104 3108388    0    0     7  2639 1466 10603 22  6 72  1</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">I</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">May I know your solution after  that ?</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">Thank you !</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">Best wishes,</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">Ray Huang</FONT></FONT><BR>
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Dear I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala=EF=BC=8C



Thank you for you information !





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=E5=8F=91ä=BB=B6ä=BA=BA: I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala =
[mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com]
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15:52
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=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'pgsql-admin'
ä=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: About "Context-switch storm" =
problem



1- Of course, we could. Problem appeared in both 8.1.8 and 8.1.15 after =
an initial upgrade.
Today database is not online due to a migration to another technology. =
It's not our database (a customer one) so we have no access to it at =
this moment.

2- One of the major on-line shops of Spain. This only happened under =
heavy load condition (that's under Christmas campaign), with a lot =
queries per minutes, some of then heavy search on database using tsearch =
modules. Under low load, there was no problem.

After upgrading to 8.2 and splitting our database in two (one database =
only for catalog searches, another database for standard operation) =
problem disappeared.

Our context switches where about 5000-10000 per second or less under low =
load scaling up to 300.000 per second under heavy load. Most of CPU time =
was spent on context switches and not on operating DB.
The database was 20 gigabytes size over a Quad Intel Xeon-DP (HT =
enabled) at 2.6Ghz with 16GB RAM memory running on a Red Hat 3.X with =
kernel 2.4.

First we upgraded to Red Hat 5 in order to get a kernel 2.6, then we =
installed postgres 8.2 and finally we splitted database.
Typical load decreased from 80-100% on high load periods to 5% or less =
per server with these changes. Context switches drop to 5000 or less per =
second.

I'm think that splitting database wouldn't have been needed, but anyway =
the changes were made to deal with higher loads in future... although =
six months later the shop was migrated to SQL Server + ASP.NET =
technology (decision was taken one year before and was not due to these =
problems :-) ).

The problem was due to several factors: kernel 2.4 + postgresql 8.2 + =
Intel Xeon DP

-----Original Message-----
From: =E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB <yongwei.huang [at] gmail.com =
<mailto:%3d%3fUTF-8%3fQ%3f%3dE9%3dBB%3d84%3dE6%3dB0%3dB8%3dE5%3d8D%3dAB%3=
f%3d%20%3cyongwei.huang [at] gmail.com%3e> >
To: 'I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala' <imartinez [at] vectorsf.com =
<mailto:%3d%3fISO-8859-1%3fQ%3f%3d27I%3dF1igo%3f%3d%20Martinez%20Lasala'%=
20%3cimartinez [at] vectorsf.com%3e> >
Cc: 'pgsql-admin' <pgsql-admin [at] postgresql.org =
<mailto:'pgsql-admin'%20%3cpgsql-admin [at] postgresql.org%3e> >
Subject: =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: About "Context-switch storm" problem
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 10:43:55 +0800

Dear I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala=EF=BC=8C

Thank you for your replay and advice.

My company is a software application vendor, and our customer is useing =
PostgreSQL 8.1.3.

When our application is runing , the DB sluggish suddenly and =
application stop.

To prove <javascript:;> that it is not the problem of the application =
,We need some evidence to certified this version have problem and show =
to our customer.

And Can I ask you several <javascript:;> questions?



1=E3=80=81 Can you recreate the "Context-switch storm" in the your =
old version PostgreSQL 8.1.15 ?

2=E3=80=81 If you can ,could you please tell me your test case =
=EF=BC=9F



Thank you so much=EF=BC=81



Best regards,

Ray Huang



_____

=E5=8F=91ä=BB=B6ä=BA=BA: I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala =
[mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com]
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2010=E5=B9=B45=E6=9C=8828=E6=97=A5 =
15:43
=E6=94=B6ä=BB=B6ä=BA=BA: =E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB
=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: pgsql-admin
ä=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: About "Context-switch storm" problem




Hi, Yongwei

We finally upgraded our database server to last PostgreSQL 8.2 =
available.

Since 8.2 does not include any major change (8.3 does indeed a lot of =
them) we had no problem with this upgrade. And believe, our database was =
really complex. About 600 tables with 300 stored procedures, wide use of =
embedded functions from different packages (including tsearch2) and lot =
of triggers and views. Not problems at all.

Migrating to 8.3 or 8.4 is another history. So, my recommendation is to =
migrate to 8.2.17

-----Original Message-----
From: =E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB<yongwei.huang [at] gmail.com =
<mailto:%3d%3fUTF-8%3fQ%3f%3dE9%3dBB%3d84%3dE6%3dB0%3dB8%3dE5%3d8D%3dAB%3=
f%3d%20%3cyongwei.huang [at] gmail.com%3e> >
To: imartinez [at] vectorsf.com
Subject: About "Context-switch storm" problem
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:31:54 +0800

Hello=EF=BC=8CI=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala !



I read your mail about =E2=80=9CContext-switch storm in 8.1.15=E2=80=9D =
from postgres website.

I think I meet the same problem as you now .

Recently my company=E2=80=99s postgres DB server sluggish suddenly with =
a hight Context-switching value as below:



2010-04-07 04:03:15 procs memory swap =
io system cpu

2010-04-07 04:03:15 r b swpd free buff cache si so bi =
bo in cs us sy id wa

2010-04-07 14:04:27 3 0 0 2361272 272684 3096148 0 0 3 =
1445 973 14230 7 8 84 0

2010-04-07 14:05:27 2 0 0 2361092 272684 3096220 0 0 3 =
1804 1029 31852 8 10 81 1

2010-04-07 14:06:27 1 0 0 2362236 272684 3096564 0 0 3 =
1865 1135 19689 9 9 81 0

2010-04-07 14:07:27 1 0 0 2348400 272720 3101836 0 0 3 =
1582 1182 149461 15 17 67 0

2010-04-07 14:08:27 3 0 0 2392028 272840 3107600 0 0 3 =
3093 1275 203196 24 23 53 1

2010-04-07 14:09:27 3 1 0 2386224 272916 3107960 0 0 3 =
2486 1331 193299 26 22 52 0

2010-04-07 14:10:27 34 0 0 2332320 272980 3107944 0 0 3 =
1692 1082 214309 24 22 54 0

2010-04-07 14:11:27 1 0 0 2407432 273028 3108092 0 0 6 =
2770 1540 76643 29 13 57 1

2010-04-07 14:12:27 9 0 0 2358968 273104 3108388 0 0 7 =
2639 1466 10603 22 6 72 1





I

May I know your solution after that ?







Thank you !

Best wishes,

Ray Huang








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lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala
[mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com] <br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=E5=8F=91=E9=80= 81=E6=97=B6=E9=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> <st1:chsdate IsROCDate=3D"False" =
IsLunarDate=3D"False"
Day=3D"31" Month=3D"5" Year=3D"2010" w:st=3D"on">2010<span =
lang=3DEN-US><span lang=3DEN-US>=E5=B9=B45</span></span><span
lang=3DEN-US><span lang=3DEN-US>=E6=9C=8831</span></span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><span
lang=3DEN-US>=E6=97=A5</span></span></st1:chsdate> 15:52<br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=E6=94=B6ä=BB= B6ä=BA=BA<s=
pan
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>=E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB<span lang=3DEN-US><br>
</span><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></b><span
lang=3DEN-US> 'pgsql-admin'<br>
</span><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>ä=B8=BB=E9=A2=98<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></b><span
lang=3DEN-US> Re: </span>=E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D<span lang=3DEN-US>: About =
"Context-switch
storm" problem</span></span></font><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D=E5=AE=8Bä=BD=93><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>1- Of course, we could. Problem =
appeared in
both <st1:chsdate IsROCDate=3D"False" IsLunarDate=3D"False" Day=3D"30" =
Month=3D"12"
Year=3D"1899" w:st=3D"on">8.1.8 a</st1:chsdate>nd 8.1.15 after an =
initial upgrade.<br>
Today database is not online due to a migration to another technology. =
It's not
our database (a customer one) so we have no access to it at this moment. =
<br>
<br>
2- One of the major on-line shops of <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region>. This only happened =
under
heavy load condition (that's under Christmas campaign), with a lot =
queries per
minutes, some of then heavy search on database using tsearch modules. =
Under low
load, there was no problem.<br>
<br>
After upgrading to 8.2 and splitting our database in two (one database =
only for
catalog searches, another database for standard operation) problem =
disappeared.<br>
<br>
Our context switches where about 5000-10000 per second or less under low =
load
scaling up to 300.000 per second under heavy load. Most of CPU time was =
spent
on context switches and not on operating DB.<br>
The database was 20 gigabytes size over a Quad Intel Xeon-DP (HT =
enabled) at
2.6Ghz with 16GB RAM memory running on a Red Hat 3.X with kernel =
2.4.<br>
<br>
First we upgraded to Red Hat <st1:chmetcnv TCSC=3D"0" NumberType=3D"1"
Negative=3D"False" HasSpace=3D"True" SourceValue=3D"5" UnitName=3D"in" =
w:st=3D"on">5 in</st1:chmetcnv>
order to get a kernel 2.6, then we installed postgres 8.2 and finally we
splitted database.<br>
Typical load decreased from 80-100% on high load periods to 5% or less =
per
server with these changes. Context switches drop to 5000 or less per =
second.<br>
<br>
I'm think that splitting database wouldn't have been needed, but anyway =
the
changes were made to deal with higher loads in future... although six =
months
later the shop was migrated to SQL Server + ASP.NET technology (decision =
was
taken one year before and was not due to these problems :-) ).<br>
<br>
The problem was due to several factors: kernel 2.4 + postgresql 8.2 + =
Intel
Xeon DP  <br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From</span></b>: =
</span>=E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB<span lang=3DEN-US>
<<a
href=3D"mailto:%3d%3fUTF-8%3fQ%3f%3dE9%3dBB%3d84%3dE6%3dB0%3 dB8%3dE5%3d8D=
%3dAB%3f%3d%20%3cyongwei.huang [at] gmail.com%3e">yongwei.huang [at] g mail.com</a>&=
gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To</span></b>: 'I=C3=B1igo Martinez =
Lasala' <<a
href=3D"mailto:%3d%3fISO-8859-1%3fQ%3f%3d27I%3dF1igo%3f%3d%2 0Martinez%20L=
asala'%20%3cimartinez [at] vectorsf.com%3e">imartinez [at] vectorsf.co m</a>><br>=

<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc</span></b>: 'pgsql-admin' <<a
href=3D"mailto:'pgsql-admin'%20%3cpgsql-admin [at] postgresql.org %3e">pgsql-ad=
min [at] postgresql.org</a>><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject</span></b>: =
</span>=E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D<span
lang=3DEN-US>: About "Context-switch storm" problem<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Date</span></b>: Mon, 31 May 2010 =
10:43:55
+0800<br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>Dear I=C3=B1igo Martinez =
Lasala</span></font></span><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>=EF=BC=8C</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>    Thank =
you for
your replay and advice. </span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>My company is a software
application vendor, and our customer  is useing PostgreSQL =
8.1.3.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>When our application is =
runing ,
the DB sluggish suddenly and application stop.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>To <a =
href=3D"javascript:;">prove</a> that
it is not the problem of the application ,We need some evidence to =
certified
this version have problem and show to our customer.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>    And =
Can  I
ask you  <a href=3D"javascript:;">several</a>  =
questions?</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><br>
<br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>1</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'>=E3=80=81</span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dblack><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;color:black'>  </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>Can you recreate the =
 "Context-switch
storm" in the  your old version PostgreSQL 8.1.15 =
?</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>2</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'>=E3=80=81</span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dblack><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;color:black'>  </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>If you can ,could you please tell me =
your test
case </span>=EF=BC=9F</font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>Thank you so =
much</span></font></span><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>=EF=BC=81</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>Best =
regards,</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>Ray =
Huang</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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pan lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font
size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> I=C3=B1igo =
Martinez Lasala
[mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com] </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
</span><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=E5=8F=91=E9=80= 81=E6=97=B6=E9=
=97=B4<span
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> <st1:chsdate IsROCDate=3D"False" =
IsLunarDate=3D"False"
Day=3D"28" Month=3D"5" Year=3D"2010" w:st=3D"on">2010<span =
lang=3DEN-US><span lang=3DEN-US>=E5=B9=B45</span></span><span
lang=3DEN-US><span lang=3DEN-US>=E6=9C=8828</span></span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><span
lang=3DEN-US>=E6=97=A5</span></span></st1:chsdate> =
15:43</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
</span><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=E6=94=B6ä=BB= B6ä=BA=BA<s=
pan
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>=E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
</span><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>=E6=8A=84=E9=80= 81<span
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> pgsql-admin</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br>
</span><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>ä=B8=BB=E9=A2= 98<span
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></font></b><font size=3D2><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> Re: About "Context-switch storm" =
problem</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
<br>
 <br>
<br>
Hi, Yongwei<br>
<br>
We finally upgraded our database server to last PostgreSQL 8.2 =
available.<br>
<br>
Since 8.2 does not include any major change (8.3 does indeed a lot of =
them) we
had no problem with this upgrade. And believe, our database was really =
complex.
About 600 tables with 300 stored procedures, wide use of embedded =
functions
from different packages (including tsearch2) and lot of triggers and =
views. Not
problems at all. <br>
<br>
Migrating to 8.3 or 8.4 is another history. So, my recommendation is to =
migrate
to <st1:chsdate IsROCDate=3D"False" IsLunarDate=3D"False" Day=3D"30" =
Month=3D"12"
Year=3D"1899" w:st=3D"on">8.2.17<br>
<br>
</st1:chsdate>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From</span></b>: =
</span>=E9=BB=84=E6=B0=B8=E5=8D=AB<span lang=3DEN-US><<a
href=3D"mailto:%3d%3fUTF-8%3fQ%3f%3dE9%3dBB%3d84%3dE6%3dB0%3 dB8%3dE5%3d8D=
%3dAB%3f%3d%20%3cyongwei.huang [at] gmail.com%3e">yongwei.huang [at] g mail.com</a>&=
gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To</span></b>: <a
href=3D"mailto:imartinez [at] vectorsf.com">imartinez [at] vectorsf.co m</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject</span></b>: About
"Context-switch storm" problem<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Date</span></b>: Fri, 28 May 2010 =
13:31:54
+0800<br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>Hello</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'>=EF=BC=8C<span
lang=3DEN-US>I=C3=B1igo Martinez Lasala !</span></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>    </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>I read your mail about =E2=80=9CContext-switch storm in =
8.<st1:chmetcnv
TCSC=3D"0" NumberType=3D"1" Negative=3D"False" HasSpace=3D"False" =
SourceValue=3D"1.15"
UnitName=3D"=E2=80=9D" w:st=3D"on">1.15=E2=80=9D</st1:chmetcnv> from =
postgres website.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>I think I meet the same problem as you now =
..</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>Recently my =
company=E2=80=99s  postgres
DB server sluggish suddenly with a hight Context-switching value as =
below:</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 04:03:15
procs           &n=
bsp;         
memory     
swap          io =
    system       &=
nbsp;
cpu</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 04:03:15  =

b   swpd   free   buff  =
cache  
si   so    bi    bo  
in    cs us sy id wa</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:04:27  =

0      0 2361272 272684 =
3096148   
0    0     3  1445  973
14230  7  8 84  0</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:05:27  =

0      0 2361092 272684 =
3096220   
0    0     3  1804 1029 =
31852  8
10 81  1</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:06:27  =

0      0 2362236 272684 =
3096564   
0    0     3  1865 1135 =
19689 
9  9 81  0</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:07:27  =

0      0 2348400 272720 =
3101836   
0    0     3  1582 1182 149461 =
15 17
67  0</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:08:27  =

0      0 2392028 272840 =
3107600   
0    0     3  3093 1275 203196 =
24 23
53  1</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:09:27  =

1      0 2386224 272916 =
3107960   
0    0     3  2486 1331 193299 =
26 22
52  0</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:10:27 =
34 
0      0 2332320 272980 =
3107944   
0    0     3  1692 1082 214309 =
24 22
54  0</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:11:27  =

0      0 2407432 273028 =
3108092   
0    0     6  2770 1540 76643 29 =
13
57  1</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>2010-04-07 14:12:27  =

0      0 2358968 273104 =
3108388   
0    0     7  2639 1466 10603 =
22 
6 72  1</span></font><br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'> </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
</span><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'> </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><br>
<br>
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yongwei.huang [ Mo, 31 Mai 2010 10:12 ] [ ID #2042356 ]
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