i have a problem using ImageTTFText: I want a Text in Arial , 8pt,
without Anti-Aliasing . The result is very ugly, how can i get it
proper like it would be displayed in the browser window or photoshop?
i tried a lot of things and searched, but did not find a solution to
this...help is very much appreciated! thank you

<blickensdoerfer [at] googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>i have a problem using ImageTTFText: I want a Text in Arial , 8pt,
> without Anti-Aliasing . The result is very ugly, how can i get it
> proper like it would be displayed in the browser window or
> photoshop?
> i tried a lot of things and searched, but did not find a solution to
> this...help is very much appreciated! thank you

Sorry to disappoint you, but it is not possible.

Without anti-aliasing or grey-scale interpolation, you can not get
smooth small text on a screen.

Consider this:
8 points would be around 8 pixels at 72 DPI. Try to draw a character
in those dimensions. You get pixelated graphics.

Which browser are you talking about anyway?
What OS?

All OSes and browsers have smooth text, meaning they do anti-aliasing
automatically.

Richard.

BTW:
There is no such unit as a Point on a computer screen. The only real
unit on a screen is a pixel. Points are for printing.

maybe this helps explaining:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/636/testsu2.jpg

you can't see too much text unfortunately, but look at the "0"...it's
noch displayed correct an so are all other characters...

Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy it
in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing without
andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
smooth as you are hoping.

Regards,
George Maicovschi.

Hi George,

thx for the tip.
I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be in
the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..

greetings

stefan

On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <georgemaicovs... [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
> Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy it
> in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
> height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing without
> andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
> smooth as you are hoping.
>
> Regards,
> George Maicovschi.

<blickensdoerfer [at] googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi George,
>
> thx for the tip.
> I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
> aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be
> in
> the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..
>
> greetings
>
> stefan
>
> On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <georgemaicovs... [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy
>> it
>> in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
>> height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing
>> without
>> andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
>> smooth as you are hoping.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Maicovschi.
>

Stefan,
browser text IS anti-aliased in just about ALL browsers.
It is the OS that takes care of that.

You have to go back to WIN95 or Mac OS8 to see non-anti-aliased text
on screen...

Check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_rasterization

Richard.

sorry, i'm not actually finding the right words:

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8504/gderroryu9.jpg

here is my problem ...

On Apr 1, 10:39 pm, "Richard" <root [at] localhost> wrote:
> <blickensdoer... [at] googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:93ad4a24-6708-4f95-8d54-4ccef2f5fa49 [at] s19g2000prg.google groups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi George,
>
> > thx for the tip.
> > I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
> > aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be
> > in
> > the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..
>
> > greetings
>
> > stefan
>
> > On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <georgemaicovs... [at] gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy
> >> it
> >> in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
> >> height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing
> >> without
> >> andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
> >> smooth as you are hoping.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> George Maicovschi.
>
> Stefan,
> browser text IS anti-aliased in just about ALL browsers.
> It is the OS that takes care of that.
>
> You have to go back to WIN95 or Mac OS8 to see non-anti-aliased text
> on screen...
>
> Check here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_rasterization
>
> Richard.

now i found my problem:

http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25928&edit=1

<blickensdoerfer [at] googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> now i found my problem:
>
> http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25928&edit=1

I doubt it, since that doc is from 2003....

:(

R.

Richard,

His text is IN an image, I didn't know IE or any other browser
antialiases text in images :-)

On 2 Apr., 09:14, George Maicovschi <georgemaicovs... [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
> Richard,
>
> His text is IN an image, I didn't know IE or any other browser
> antialiases text in images :-)

oh really??? ;) it's not about that. the picture is just an
explanation of how i want my text too look like. i think i used the
wrong words before (i should have left out the browsers, although my
browsers don't antialias small font-sizes), that's why there's such a
misunderstanding...

> > now i found my problem:
>
> >http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25928&edit=1
>
> I doubt it, since that doc is from 2003....
>
> :(

but since it is due too a patent, i think it's still the point. at
least when i'm going into the config-file of freetype sourcecode, that
special line is still disabled

Richard wrote:
> <blickensdoerfer [at] googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:93ad4a24-6708-4f95-8d54-4ccef2f5fa49 [at] s19g2000prg.google groups.com...
>> Hi George,
>>
>> thx for the tip.
>> I will try that out now, the thing is: i dont want it to be anti-
>> aliased or smoothed in any way, but displayed just like it would be
>> in
>> the browser window if you display it with font-size 11px..
>>
>> greetings
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> On Apr 1, 9:58 pm, George Maicovschi <georgemaicovs... [at] gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Try writing to another image handler with 32px font and then copy
>>> it
>>> in your image using imagecopyresampled() and making it's width and
>>> height half of what it was...It's a trick I use for smoothing
>>> without
>>> andti-aliasing and it should give you better results, but not as
>>> smooth as you are hoping.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Maicovschi.
>
> Stefan,
> browser text IS anti-aliased in just about ALL browsers.
> It is the OS that takes care of that.
>
> You have to go back to WIN95 or Mac OS8 to see non-anti-aliased text
> on screen...
>
> Check here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_rasterization
>
> Richard.
>
>
>

Or you can disable smoothing in Windows Xp and check it out on IE 6 or
Firefox. IE 7 smooths the text by default.

Desktop -> Right click -> Properties -> Appearance -> Effects -> Uncheck
Smoothing of fonts (either clear-type or normal).

Best,
Animesh