Please can anyone explain the delays in delivering email?

Doesn't happen every time, but often, and frustrating!!



Typical header:

Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
Received: from aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([w.x.y.z])
by mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
id
<21080122150954.NXJV12034.mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>
for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:54 +0000
Received: from mail.tcspuk.com ([i.j.k.l])
by aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
id
<21080122150914.JRCF12646.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] mail.tcspuk.com>
for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:14 +0000
Received: from [a.b.c.d] by mail.tcspuk.com [e.f.g.h] with SmartMax MailMax
for kt.holmes [at] yyy; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -0000
Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
X-SmartMax-AuthUser: Allowmail
Reply-To: <js [at] xxx>
From: "John Searle" <js [at] xxx>
To: <kt.holmes [at] yyy>
Subject: Test from Lynne
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:57:33 -0000
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"Keith H" <kt.holmes [at] ntlworld.com> writes:

> Please can anyone explain the delays in delivering email?
>
> Doesn't happen every time, but often, and frustrating!!
>
> Typical header:
>
> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
> Received: from aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([w.x.y.z])
> by mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
> id
> <21080122150954.NXJV12034.mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>
> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:54 +0000
> Received: from mail.tcspuk.com ([i.j.k.l])
> by aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
> id <21080122150914.JRCF12646.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] mail.tcspuk.com>
> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:14 +0000
> Received: from [a.b.c.d] by mail.tcspuk.com [e.f.g.h] with SmartMax MailMax
> for kt.holmes [at] yyy; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -0000
> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
> [...]
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:57:33 -0000
> [...]

Check log files at mail.tcspuk.com or ask the postmaster of the host for
explanation. Guess work without the logs would be a waste of time.

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Thanks for your quick reply.
Sorry to be ignorant, but which is the host you refer to?

"Andrzej Adam Filip" <anfi [at] onet.eu> wrote in message
news:87zluw6bck [at] genaro.fsf.hobby-site.com...
> "Keith H" <kt.holmes [at] ntlworld.com> writes:
>
>> Please can anyone explain the delays in delivering email?
>>
>> Doesn't happen every time, but often, and frustrating!!
>>
>> Typical header:
>>
>> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
>> Received: from aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([w.x.y.z])
>> by mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
>> id
>> <21080122150954.NXJV12034.mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>
>> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:54 +0000
>> Received: from mail.tcspuk.com ([i.j.k.l])
>> by aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
>> id
>> <21080122150914.JRCF12646.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] mail.tcspuk.com>
>> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:14 +0000
>> Received: from [a.b.c.d] by mail.tcspuk.com [e.f.g.h] with SmartMax
>> MailMax
>> for kt.holmes [at] yyy; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -0000
>> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
>> [...]
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:57:33 -0000
>> [...]
>
> Check log files at mail.tcspuk.com or ask the postmaster of the host for
> explanation. Guess work without the logs would be a waste of time.
>
> --
> [pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi [at] priv.onet.pl : anfi [at] xl.wp.pl
> All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power.
> -- Ashleigh Brilliant
> ----
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=87zluw6bck [at] genaro.fsf.h obby-site.com

"Keith H" <kt.holmes [at] ntlworld.com> writes:

> "Andrzej Adam Filip" <anfi [at] onet.eu> wrote...
>> "Keith H" <kt.holmes [at] ntlworld.com> writes:
>>
>>> Please can anyone explain the delays in delivering email?
>>>
>>> Doesn't happen every time, but often, and frustrating!!
>>>
>>> Typical header:
>>>
>>> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
>>> Received: from aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([w.x.y.z])
>>> by mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
>>> id
>>> <21080122150954.NXJV12034.mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>
>>> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:54 +0000
>>> Received: from mail.tcspuk.com ([i.j.k.l])
>>> by aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
>>> id
>>> <21080122150914.JRCF12646.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] mail.tcspuk.com>
>>> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:14 +0000
>>> Received: from [a.b.c.d] by mail.tcspuk.com [e.f.g.h] with SmartMax
>>> MailMax
>>> for kt.holmes [at] yyy; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -0000
>>> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
>>> [...]
>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:57:33 -0000
>>> [...]
>>
>> Check log files at mail.tcspuk.com or ask the postmaster of the host for
>> explanation. Guess work without the logs would be a waste of time.
>
> Thanks for your quick reply.
> Sorry to be ignorant, but which is the host you refer to?

0) The message was sent at 11:57:33 -0000
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:57:33 -0000
1) Host mail.tcspuk.com accepted the message at 12:02:34 -0000

Received: from [a.b.c.d] by mail.tcspuk.com [e.f.g.h] with SmartMax
MailMax for kt.holmes [at] yyy; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -000

2) Host aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com accepted the message at 15:09:14 +0000

Received: from mail.tcspuk.com ([i.j.k.l]) by
aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id
<21080122150914.JRCF12646.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] mail.tcspuk.com>
for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:14 +0000

*SO*
The most likely explanations of 3 hours delay between "1" and "2"
1) time zone miss-configuration at sending (or receiving system)
2) Some problems with SMTP transfer from mail.tcspuk.com to
aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com
3) you "munged out" time zone info when reporting the headers

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* Keith H is quoted & my replies are inline below :
> Please can anyone explain the delays in delivering email?
>
> Doesn't happen every time, but often, and frustrating!!
>
>
> Typical header:
>
> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
> Received: from aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([w.x.y.z])
> by mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
> id
> <21080122150954.NXJV12034.mtain01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>
> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:54 +0000
> Received: from mail.tcspuk.com ([i.j.k.l])
> by aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP
> id
> <21080122150914.JRCF12646.aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] mail.tcspuk.com>
> for <kt.holmes [at] yyy>; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:14 +0000
> Received: from [a.b.c.d] by mail.tcspuk.com [e.f.g.h] with SmartMax MailMax
> for kt.holmes [at] yyy; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -0000
> Return-Path: <js [at] xxx>
> X-SmartMax-AuthUser: Allowmail
> Reply-To: <js [at] xxx>
> From: "John Searle" <js [at] xxx>
> To: <kt.holmes [at] yyy>
> Subject: Test from Lynne
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:57:33 -0000
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C85CED.F9528B00"
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
> Thread-Index: Achc7fjPn2+60blvQ1alk61T//i26A==
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
> Message-ID: <1201003354.26107 [at] mail.tcspuk.com>

Could it be that aamtain10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com has greylisting
policy?

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