You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not in
any web designing software.

If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be able to
create eggsactly what you are looking for.

OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same thing.

EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try them
both.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





"William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a Dreamweaver
site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I just
wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like the
Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality as
the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I would
like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in FP2003.

How does Web Expression and Adobe compare can I do the same thing staying in
the Microsoft family

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:uDBXUPKXIHA.4140 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not in
> any web designing software.
>
> If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
> Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be able
> to
> create eggsactly what you are looking for.
>
> OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same thing.
>
> EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try them
> both.
>
>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
>
>
>
>
>
> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a Dreamweaver
> site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I just
> wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like the
> Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
> WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality as
> the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I would
> like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in FP2003.
>
>

you can do the same things with each program.
it's all about how well you learn to use them.
FWIW; you could do the same thing with notepad if you absolutely had to.

I think you just need to separate in your mind a web dev tool (Expression
Web, Dreamweaver, etc.) from an image tool like Expression Design,
Photoshop, Fireworks, etc.

to do what you want you will need a tool to create the graphics and another
tool to lay them out into HTML pages.

HTH

--
Chris Leeds
Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact
Have you seen ContentSeed (www.contentseed.com)?
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"William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23SAaPWKXIHA.6044 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> How does Web Expression and Adobe compare can I do the same thing staying
> in the Microsoft family
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uDBXUPKXIHA.4140 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not in
>> any web designing software.
>>
>> If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
>> Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be able
>> to
>> create eggsactly what you are looking for.
>>
>> OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same
>> thing.
>>
>> EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try them
>> both.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Rob Giordano
>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a Dreamweaver
>> site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I just
>> wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like
>> the
>> Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
>> WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality as
>> the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I
>> would
>> like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in
>> FP2003.
>>
>>

Yes.

The Expression Suite includes Expression Design which can create graphics,
although IMO ED is not quite finished and doesn't compete with Illustrator
or Photoshop yet. Currently it's mostly vector graphics with limited raster
(pixel) capability, but I think this may change in future releases. I think
ED will be an excellent program if/when they put the raster capability back
in it.

The graphic you posted would be best created in a vector graphics program,
then exported or saved as a jpg...Illustrator is great but expensive, Xara
Xtreme Pro is another one which is easy to use and not so expensive.
Expression Design can do the same...try them all they all have trials.
Graphics and images are a separate affair from your web design software so
you will have to have and learn to use one anyway. Plan on spending a few
months learning to use a graphic design software, no matter which web design
software you go with.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





"William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23SAaPWKXIHA.6044 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| How does Web Expression and Adobe compare can I do the same thing staying
in
| the Microsoft family
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
| news:uDBXUPKXIHA.4140 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not
in
| > any web designing software.
| >
| > If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
| > Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be
able
| > to
| > create eggsactly what you are looking for.
| >
| > OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same
thing.
| >
| > EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try them
| > both.
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > Rob Giordano
| > Microsoft MVP Expression
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a Dreamweaver
| > site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I just
| > wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like
the
| > Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
| > WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality
as
| > the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I
would
| > like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in
FP2003.
| >
| >

Yeah I was getting that impression one for pictures and one for web stuff I
just thought I could do everything with FrontPage....then I didn't think it
would take so long but as I am learning in my Project Development Class it
is a PROJECT...lol

"Chris Leeds, MVP - FrontPage" <NewsGroups [at] ChrisLeeds.com> wrote in message
news:OFf0SoPXIHA.4712 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> you can do the same things with each program.
> it's all about how well you learn to use them.
> FWIW; you could do the same thing with notepad if you absolutely had to.
>
> I think you just need to separate in your mind a web dev tool (Expression
> Web, Dreamweaver, etc.) from an image tool like Expression Design,
> Photoshop, Fireworks, etc.
>
> to do what you want you will need a tool to create the graphics and
> another tool to lay them out into HTML pages.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Chris Leeds
> Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact
> Have you seen ContentSeed (www.contentseed.com)?
> NOTE:
> This message was posted from an unmonitored email account.
> This is an unfortunate necessity due to high volumes of spam sent to email
> addresses in public newsgroups.
> Sorry for any inconvenience.
> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23SAaPWKXIHA.6044 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> How does Web Expression and Adobe compare can I do the same thing staying
>> in the Microsoft family
>>
>> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uDBXUPKXIHA.4140 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not
>>> in
>>> any web designing software.
>>>
>>> If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
>>> Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be
>>> able to
>>> create eggsactly what you are looking for.
>>>
>>> OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try them
>>> both.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Rob Giordano
>>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a Dreamweaver
>>> site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I just
>>> wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like
>>> the
>>> Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
>>> WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality
>>> as
>>> the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I
>>> would
>>> like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in
>>> FP2003.
>>>
>>>
>
>

cool. I have tried Nvu and it is okay at least the links worked lol

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:#NmEUDQXIHA.5716 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yes.
>
> The Expression Suite includes Expression Design which can create graphics,
> although IMO ED is not quite finished and doesn't compete with Illustrator
> or Photoshop yet. Currently it's mostly vector graphics with limited
> raster
> (pixel) capability, but I think this may change in future releases. I
> think
> ED will be an excellent program if/when they put the raster capability
> back
> in it.
>
> The graphic you posted would be best created in a vector graphics program,
> then exported or saved as a jpg...Illustrator is great but expensive, Xara
> Xtreme Pro is another one which is easy to use and not so expensive.
> Expression Design can do the same...try them all they all have trials.
> Graphics and images are a separate affair from your web design software so
> you will have to have and learn to use one anyway. Plan on spending a few
> months learning to use a graphic design software, no matter which web
> design
> software you go with.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rob Giordano
> Microsoft MVP Expression
>
>
>
>
>
> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23SAaPWKXIHA.6044 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | How does Web Expression and Adobe compare can I do the same thing
> staying
> in
> | the Microsoft family
> |
> | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
> message
> | news:uDBXUPKXIHA.4140 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not
> in
> | > any web designing software.
> | >
> | > If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
> | > Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be
> able
> | > to
> | > create eggsactly what you are looking for.
> | >
> | > OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same
> thing.
> | >
> | > EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try
> them
> | > both.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> | > Rob Giordano
> | > Microsoft MVP Expression
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a
> Dreamweaver
> | > site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I
> just
> | > wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like
> the
> | > Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
> | > WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality
> as
> | > the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I
> would
> | > like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in
> FP2003.
> | >
> | >
>
>

good luck and have fun with it.
that's the only way to approach a huge project and still maintain your
sanity. ;-)

--
Chris Leeds
Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact
Have you seen ContentSeed (www.contentseed.com)?
NOTE:
This message was posted from an unmonitored email account.
This is an unfortunate necessity due to high volumes of spam sent to email
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Sorry for any inconvenience.
"William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uKw03bQXIHA.4808 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah I was getting that impression one for pictures and one for web stuff
> I just thought I could do everything with FrontPage....then I didn't think
> it would take so long but as I am learning in my Project Development Class
> it is a PROJECT...lol
>
> "Chris Leeds, MVP - FrontPage" <NewsGroups [at] ChrisLeeds.com> wrote in
> message news:OFf0SoPXIHA.4712 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> you can do the same things with each program.
>> it's all about how well you learn to use them.
>> FWIW; you could do the same thing with notepad if you absolutely had to.
>>
>> I think you just need to separate in your mind a web dev tool (Expression
>> Web, Dreamweaver, etc.) from an image tool like Expression Design,
>> Photoshop, Fireworks, etc.
>>
>> to do what you want you will need a tool to create the graphics and
>> another tool to lay them out into HTML pages.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> --
>> Chris Leeds
>> Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact
>> Have you seen ContentSeed (www.contentseed.com)?
>> NOTE:
>> This message was posted from an unmonitored email account.
>> This is an unfortunate necessity due to high volumes of spam sent to
>> email addresses in public newsgroups.
>> Sorry for any inconvenience.
>> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23SAaPWKXIHA.6044 [at] TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> How does Web Expression and Adobe compare can I do the same thing
>>> staying in the Microsoft family
>>>
>>> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster [at] siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
>>> message news:uDBXUPKXIHA.4140 [at] TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> You would create those effects in an image editor, like Photoshop, not
>>>> in
>>>> any web designing software.
>>>>
>>>> If you're gonna go with DW then buy one of the CS3 Suites that include
>>>> Illustrator and Photoshop and DW then after a long while you will be
>>>> able to
>>>> create eggsactly what you are looking for.
>>>>
>>>> OR you could buy EW, Photoshop and also Illustrator and do the same
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>> EW & DW both have trial versions, I encourage you download and try them
>>>> both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Rob Giordano
>>>> Microsoft MVP Expression
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "William K. Bunch" <williamkbunch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OwRuCzIXIHA.5348 [at] TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I was wondering if a FP2003 site can do the same thing as a Dreamweaver
>>>> site? I am very new to web design so before I spent tons of money I
>>>> just
>>>> wanted to ask. I prefer the glass look of Linux and vista. I also like
>>>> the
>>>> Icons from OSX. I was wondering if FP2003 can make Icons, Files, and
>>>> WebPages look like super wet glass and liquid metals such high quality
>>>> as
>>>> the polymorphic terminators in T3. I have attached a PNG file that I
>>>> would
>>>> like my entire site to look like. Is this possible using layers in
>>>> FP2003.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>