Hi,

I have Frontpage 2003 and am creating my own site from scratch. I've prior
used one that included include pages for the banner and such, so I designed
mine the same. The includes work fine and show up on every page, but are not
updating when I change them.

Basically, I edit the include (lets say I add a new line to the site news
box on the right side) and click save. Looks fine. Then I go to any of the
site pages that have the include showing and they don't show the update
unless I actually save those pages too!

For example, after editing my news box I would have to go and save the
index/home page for it to show the change on that page. But all the other
pages in the site still show the old text in the news box untill I save them
too.

This is really worrying me, cause I will be updating my includes frequently.
I can't save every one of my pages as it's a huge site. Any ideas?

You need to open your site (not just a page) in FP, and publish changes (all pages using the include must be published)
To fix your current problem Open your site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks

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"CrimsonSkyGraphics" <CrimsonSkyGraphics [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Hi,
|
| I have Frontpage 2003 and am creating my own site from scratch. I've prior
| used one that included include pages for the banner and such, so I designed
| mine the same. The includes work fine and show up on every page, but are not
| updating when I change them.
|
| Basically, I edit the include (lets say I add a new line to the site news
| box on the right side) and click save. Looks fine. Then I go to any of the
| site pages that have the include showing and they don't show the update
| unless I actually save those pages too!
|
| For example, after editing my news box I would have to go and save the
| index/home page for it to show the change on that page. But all the other
| pages in the site still show the old text in the news box untill I save them
| too.
|
| This is really worrying me, cause I will be updating my includes frequently.
| I can't save every one of my pages as it's a huge site. Any ideas?

This is actually the way it works. The include pages are a design-time
feature. That means that they are updated through the FP Program during
design operations, such as opening and saving a page. These are not
server-side includes, which would do this automatically. This is a very
different, and much older mechanism, than the DWTs but it's the same
concept. Use the Tools, Recalculate Hyperlinks feature to have FP go through
and check for any updated features that use the various components such as
the include bot. You'll then need to publish all the pages that make use of
the include once they've been updated. You have to do it this way because
the way the include bot works is by grabbing the HTML of another file and
physically inserting it into any file that wants to use it so that it
becomes part of that other page.


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Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - Expression

"CrimsonSkyGraphics" <CrimsonSkyGraphics [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:85B84AB5-38EF-4AEF-812B-313DC3F1D05B [at] microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have Frontpage 2003 and am creating my own site from scratch. I've prior
> used one that included include pages for the banner and such, so I
> designed
> mine the same. The includes work fine and show up on every page, but are
> not
> updating when I change them.
>
> Basically, I edit the include (lets say I add a new line to the site news
> box on the right side) and click save. Looks fine. Then I go to any of the
> site pages that have the include showing and they don't show the update
> unless I actually save those pages too!
>
> For example, after editing my news box I would have to go and save the
> index/home page for it to show the change on that page. But all the other
> pages in the site still show the old text in the news box untill I save
> them
> too.
>
> This is really worrying me, cause I will be updating my includes
> frequently.
> I can't save every one of my pages as it's a huge site. Any ideas?

Thank you so much!

One last question, though. My current site that I'm creating this one to
replace also uses includes. The include goes onto every page of the site, but
I never had this updating problem with it. I simply changed the include page
and saved it and it automatically updated all the other pages without need
for this extra step.

Any idea why it changed?

"Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:

> This is actually the way it works. The include pages are a design-time
> feature. That means that they are updated through the FP Program during
> design operations, such as opening and saving a page. These are not
> server-side includes, which would do this automatically. This is a very
> different, and much older mechanism, than the DWTs but it's the same
> concept. Use the Tools, Recalculate Hyperlinks feature to have FP go through
> and check for any updated features that use the various components such as
> the include bot. You'll then need to publish all the pages that make use of
> the include once they've been updated. You have to do it this way because
> the way the include bot works is by grabbing the HTML of another file and
> physically inserting it into any file that wants to use it so that it
> becomes part of that other page.
>
>
> --
> Hope this helps,
> Mark Fitzpatrick
> Microsoft MVP - Expression
>
> "CrimsonSkyGraphics" <CrimsonSkyGraphics [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:85B84AB5-38EF-4AEF-812B-313DC3F1D05B [at] microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have Frontpage 2003 and am creating my own site from scratch. I've prior
> > used one that included include pages for the banner and such, so I
> > designed
> > mine the same. The includes work fine and show up on every page, but are
> > not
> > updating when I change them.
> >
> > Basically, I edit the include (lets say I add a new line to the site news
> > box on the right side) and click save. Looks fine. Then I go to any of the
> > site pages that have the include showing and they don't show the update
> > unless I actually save those pages too!
> >
> > For example, after editing my news box I would have to go and save the
> > index/home page for it to show the change on that page. But all the other
> > pages in the site still show the old text in the news box untill I save
> > them
> > too.
> >
> > This is really worrying me, cause I will be updating my includes
> > frequently.
> > I can't save every one of my pages as it's a huge site. Any ideas?
>