Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an Apple
Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are underlined -
a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.

No-one can help unless they can see the page - or at least the html
forming the page along with any CSS and Javascript being used.

Please give a link to the faulty page.

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Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
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http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




"JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com:

> Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an Apple
> Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are underlined -
> a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.

the websites are:
www.venatoruk.com
www.holyghostschool.co.uk
www.deskdepot.co.uk

"Ronx" wrote:

> No-one can help unless they can see the page - or at least the html
> forming the page along with any CSS and Javascript being used.
>
> Please give a link to the faulty page.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
>
>
>
> "JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com:
>
> > Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an Apple
> > Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are underlined -
> > a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.
>
>

Looking at http://www.venatoruk.com/

Your links should be similar to:

<td style="width:14%; background:#000048
url(images/template/blue%20lines.gif); border-right:#FFFFFF solid 1px;
border-bottom: none; border-top:none;
text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;
font-face:verdana;font-weight:700;font-size:80%"><a href="index.htm"
style="color:#FFFFFF;text-decoration:none;">Home</a></span></font></td>

If you move all the CSS (contained in the style="..." strings) to an
embedded or external style sheet, this can be simplified to:

<td class="topnav">Home

The CSS would be:
<style type="text/css">
..topnav { width:14%; background:#000048
url(images/template/blue%20lines.gif); border-right:#FFFFFF solid 1px;
border-bottom: none; border-top:none;
text-align:center;vertical-align:middle;
font-face:verdana;font-weight:700;font-size:80%";}
..topnav a {color:#FFFFFF;text-decoration:none;}

There are other problems on the page caused by the negative margins
being used. Try changing the top margin on the second paragraph
instead.
And using the space bar to position words will also give problems since
different browsers will give different sizes to fonts - and users will
resize the fonts anyway. This will, of course, change the page layout.
You also need to set a background colour for the page.

I suggest you preview the pages in FireFox. While FireFox is not the
same as Safari on the Mac, it is very similar, and FireFox does show
most of the problems.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




"JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F6ADD34F-4304-47B5-9434-C5D19C70C04D [at] microsoft.com:

> the websites are:
> www.venatoruk.com
> www.holyghostschool.co.uk
> www.deskdepot.co.uk
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
> > No-one can help unless they can see the page - or at least the html
> > forming the page along with any CSS and Javascript being used.
> >
> > Please give a link to the faulty page.
> >
> > --
> > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> >
> > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com:
> >
> > > Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an Apple
> > > Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are underlined -
> > > a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.
> >
> >

"JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com...
> Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an
> Apple
> Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are
> underlined -
> a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.

Underlined hyperlinks are not at all unprofessional. Paying good attention
to usability is very professional, and using conventions that have been
understood by users for many years (like underlining hyperlinks) contributes
a lot to good usability.

I'm not saying that it's never appropriate to show that links are links with
some other indication - but there's definitely nothing unprofessional about
having them underlined, even if you personally don't "go for the look". :-)

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"JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com...
> Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an
> Apple
> Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are
> underlined -
> a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.

I'd be much more concerned about the unprofessional appearance of scrolling
text. :\


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I notice that none of the hyperlinks are underlined on the homepage of your
site www.WebDevBiz.com - it looks tidy and it is obvious where the links are
- that is how I like pages to look and that is my problem with my sites when
they are viewed on Macs.

"P [at] tty Ayers" wrote:

>
> "JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com...
> > Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an
> > Apple
> > Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are
> > underlined -
> > a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.
>
> Underlined hyperlinks are not at all unprofessional. Paying good attention
> to usability is very professional, and using conventions that have been
> understood by users for many years (like underlining hyperlinks) contributes
> a lot to good usability.
>
> I'm not saying that it's never appropriate to show that links are links with
> some other indication - but there's definitely nothing unprofessional about
> having them underlined, even if you personally don't "go for the look". :-)
>
> --
> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
> --
>
>
>

I do it differently on each site, and often use underlines. But in any case,
if your code is right, it will work exactly the same on a Mac as on a PC.

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"JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E63BC065-7B71-4F62-A18C-C8DF719EB204 [at] microsoft.com...
>I notice that none of the hyperlinks are underlined on the homepage of your
> site www.WebDevBiz.com - it looks tidy and it is obvious where the links
> are
> - that is how I like pages to look and that is my problem with my sites
> when
> they are viewed on Macs.
>
> "P [at] tty Ayers" wrote:
>
>>
>> "JOEY" <JOEY [at] discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAF11715-2EEA-487A-982C-D4C0D673663D [at] microsoft.com...
>> > Hello - I recently viewed the 3 websites I make (Frontpage 2003) on an
>> > Apple
>> > Mac and they look very unprofessional as all the hyperlinks are
>> > underlined -
>> > a look I don't go for! Can anyone help. Thank you.
>>
>> Underlined hyperlinks are not at all unprofessional. Paying good
>> attention
>> to usability is very professional, and using conventions that have been
>> understood by users for many years (like underlining hyperlinks)
>> contributes
>> a lot to good usability.
>>
>> I'm not saying that it's never appropriate to show that links are links
>> with
>> some other indication - but there's definitely nothing unprofessional
>> about
>> having them underlined, even if you personally don't "go for the look".
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>> --
>>
>>
>>