HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

Google map delivers an iframe to embed it into the homepage
but the html validator gives some errors.

http://uni-regensburg.equine-behaviour.de/index.php?meeting2 008/meeting2008_e.php

How could I substitue the iframe?

Regards Knut
knut.krueger [ Mo, 12 November 2007 13:48 ] [ ID #1868903 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

Knut Krueger wrote:

> Google map delivers an iframe to embed it into the homepage
> but the html validator gives some errors.
>
> http://uni-regensburg.equine-behaviour.de/index.php?meeting2 008/meeting2008_e.php
>
> How could I substitue the iframe?
>

Use a good old anchor.
That would be much nicer for the user.
(Or use the OBJECT element, or use HTML 4.01 transitional)


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tabkanDELETETHISnaz [ Di, 13 November 2007 00:41 ] [ ID #1868959 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

André Gillibert schrieb:
> Knut Krueger wrote:
>
>> Google map delivers an iframe to embed it into the homepage
>> but the html validator gives some errors.
>>
>> http://uni-regensburg.equine-behaviour.de/index.php?meeting2 008/meeting2008_e.php
>>
>>
>> How could I substitue the iframe?
>>
>
> Use a good old anchor.
?!? an anchor with scroll zoom, switching between map sat and hybrid and
so on?
> That would be much nicer for the user.
> (Or use the OBJECT element, or use HTML 4.01 transitional)
>
An answer from Jonathan 05/19/2006
> your result will more likely be more constant
>> among browsers , so use *strict* doctype.

OK maybe its not state of the art in 2007/2008 but I did not read
anything against strict.


I do not want to reorganize the whole Homepage.
There is only one layout PHP script for all pages with different contents
next solution:
or live with the 9 errors at this page
Not the best one but it seems to work.

Regards Knut
knut.krueger [ Di, 13 November 2007 08:01 ] [ ID #1869820 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

Knut Krueger wrote:

> OK maybe its not state of the art in 2007/2008 but I did not read
> anything against strict.

Although the HTML 4.01 Strict DOCTYPE is nice -- a classic even -- you've
got to think about the reason *why* it's recommended.

Validating against strict is recommended precisely *because* it doesn't
allow you to use <font>, <center> and all kinds of crap. But if you're
going to insist on using that crap (and <iframe> is included here!) then
you're going to have to abandon strict.

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Toby A Inkster [ Di, 13 November 2007 18:17 ] [ ID #1869873 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

Knut Krueger wrote:


> I do not want to reorganize the whole Homepage.
> There is only one layout PHP script for all pages with different contents
> next solution:
> or live with the 9 errors at this page
> Not the best one but it seems to work.
>
Or use OBJECT (but you seem to have skipped that part of my reply).



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tabkanDELETETHISnaz [ Di, 13 November 2007 20:19 ] [ ID #1869897 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

Toby A Inkster wrote:

> Validating against strict is recommended precisely *because* it doesn't
> allow you to use <font>, <center> and all kinds of crap. But if you're
> going to insist on using that crap (and <iframe> is included here!) then
> you're going to have to abandon strict.
>

Among many other bad things, embedding external pages with IFRAME brings
all the cr*p of the external pages in the embedding page.

e.g. Google maps indefinitively loads and re-loads (something like an
infinite redirection) with my browser (Opera with JavaScript disabled). I
noticed that this bug is reproduced in FF when JavaScript are disabled.
Even with JavaScript enabled, it doesn't work properly with IE6 (requires
VML support), Opera 8.54 or K-Meleon.
With JavaScript enabled, it requires a VERY long time to load in SeaMonkey
or FF.

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tabkanDELETETHISnaz [ Di, 13 November 2007 21:33 ] [ ID #1869904 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

André Gillibert schrieb:
> Knut Krueger wrote:
>

> Or use OBJECT (but you seem to have skipped that part of my reply).
>
I did not really skipped this part, but I found examples OBJECT only
with java script. I do not know just know how to use OBJECT in my context.

Regards Knut
knut.krueger [ Do, 15 November 2007 07:44 ] [ ID #1871981 ]

Re: HTML 4.01 Strict and "google map iframe"

Knut Krueger wrote:

> André Gillibert schrieb:
>> Knut Krueger wrote:
>>
>
>> Or use OBJECT (but you seem to have skipped that part of my reply).
>>
> I did not really skipped this part, but I found examples OBJECT only
> with java script. I do not know just know how to use OBJECT in my
> context.
>

<object data="http://example.com/somewhere/" type="text/html" >
Somewhere
</object>

Just read the manual:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/objects.html

Anyway, that would still be inacessible, because google maps s*cks at
accessibility. This infinite loading is annoying.
If you want to show a map accessible to everybody, use an image (served in
PNG and GIF) stored on your server, and additionally put a regular link to
google maps. You may even put the image in the link.

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tabkanDELETETHISnaz [ Do, 15 November 2007 21:16 ] [ ID #1872021 ]
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