Firewall Selection Advice

Good day. I'm starting a network consisting of 50 PCs through a
satellite connection. I need a dedicated firewall which will be able
to accomplish the following:

-MAC Filtering for hardlined machines (the wireless router can handle
MAC filtering for wireless)
-Badwidth limits per MAC address for a specific time period
-Logs of all traffic
-Log specifically for bandwidth
-Blocking of some P2P processes, but not all (don't allow gaming but
do allow skype, etc)
-DHCP
-Normal DoS protection, etc
-VPN is not important to us

Any advice? I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to
spend less than $200. I've seen ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus, which looks good,
but I'm not 100% convinced.

Thanks for your help.
LTKaveman [ So, 04 November 2007 07:04 ] [ ID #1862362 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

<LTKaveman [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194156283.714874.166120 [at] 50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Good day. I'm starting a network consisting of 50 PCs through a
> satellite connection. I need a dedicated firewall which will be able
> to accomplish the following:
>
> -MAC Filtering for hardlined machines (the wireless router can handle
> MAC filtering for wireless)
> -Badwidth limits per MAC address for a specific time period
> -Logs of all traffic
> -Log specifically for bandwidth
> -Blocking of some P2P processes, but not all (don't allow gaming but
> do allow skype, etc)
> -DHCP
> -Normal DoS protection, etc
> -VPN is not important to us
>
> Any advice? I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to
> spend less than $200. I've seen ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus, which looks good,
> but I'm not 100% convinced.
>
> Thanks for your help.


If wireless is involved, then you need to be posting to
alt.internet,wireless to professionals that put those types of solutions
together for clients.


>
MR. Arnold [ So, 04 November 2007 11:58 ] [ ID #1862363 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

>
> If wireless is involved, then you need to be posting to
> alt.internet,wireless to professionals that put those types of solutions
> together for clients.
>

This is a network for both wireless and wired machines.
LTKaveman [ So, 04 November 2007 13:31 ] [ ID #1862365 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

<LTKaveman [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194179485.741505.215500 [at] z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >
>> If wireless is involved, then you need to be posting to
>> alt.internet,wireless to professionals that put those types of solutions
>> together for clients.
>>
>
> This is a network for both wireless and wired machines.
>

So? They work with both types of solutions in the wireless NG as clients
have wired/wireless solutions they need help with to implement, and they can
give you better advise on a wire/wireless solution. That's what they do.

I can't say that you're posting to the wrong NG. But there are professionals
over there that are just as savvy in wire/wireless FW solutions maybe even
better than here. One thing they might say is keep the wireless out of the
FW's trusted zone and not even get a wire/wireless FW appliance solution as
an example and take another approach.

I frequent both NG(s).
MR. Arnold [ So, 04 November 2007 14:52 ] [ ID #1862366 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

> I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to spend less than
> $200.

Here is the cost figure to keep in mind: Between $50 and $100 in direct and
indirect costs for EACH customer record inadvertently exposed.

Perimeter protection is not a place to skimp on costs.

JJ


<LTKaveman [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194156283.714874.166120 [at] 50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Good day. I'm starting a network consisting of 50 PCs through a
> satellite connection. I need a dedicated firewall which will be able
> to accomplish the following:
>
> -MAC Filtering for hardlined machines (the wireless router can handle
> MAC filtering for wireless)
> -Badwidth limits per MAC address for a specific time period
> -Logs of all traffic
> -Log specifically for bandwidth
> -Blocking of some P2P processes, but not all (don't allow gaming but
> do allow skype, etc)
> -DHCP
> -Normal DoS protection, etc
> -VPN is not important to us
>
> Any advice? I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to
> spend less than $200. I've seen ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus, which looks good,
> but I'm not 100% convinced.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
jj [ Mo, 05 November 2007 01:48 ] [ ID #1863231 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

On Nov 4, 12:04 am, "LTKave... [at] gmail.com" <LTKave... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Good day. I'm starting a network consisting of 50 PCs through a
> satellite connection. I need a dedicated firewall which will be able
> to accomplish the following:
>
> -MAC Filtering for hardlined machines (the wireless router can handle
> MAC filtering for wireless)
> -Badwidth limits per MAC address for a specific time period
> -Logs of all traffic
> -Log specifically for bandwidth
> -Blocking of some P2P processes, but not all (don't allow gaming but
> do allow skype, etc)
> -DHCP
> -Normal DoS protection, etc
> -VPN is not important to us
>
> Any advice? I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to
> spend less than $200. I've seen ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus, which looks good,
> but I'm not 100% convinced.
>
> Thanks for your help.

Less than $200 per seat or less than $200 TOTAL for the entire
firewall solution??
amr [ Mo, 05 November 2007 16:53 ] [ ID #1863234 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

In article <1194277996.135676.233620 [at] 22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
sirus.cosmo [at] gmail.com says...
> On Nov 4, 12:04 am, "LTKave... [at] gmail.com" <LTKave... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good day. I'm starting a network consisting of 50 PCs through a
> > satellite connection. I need a dedicated firewall which will be able
> > to accomplish the following:
> >
> > -MAC Filtering for hardlined machines (the wireless router can handle
> > MAC filtering for wireless)
> > -Badwidth limits per MAC address for a specific time period
> > -Logs of all traffic
> > -Log specifically for bandwidth
> > -Blocking of some P2P processes, but not all (don't allow gaming but
> > do allow skype, etc)
> > -DHCP
> > -Normal DoS protection, etc
> > -VPN is not important to us
> >
> > Any advice? I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to
> > spend less than $200. I've seen ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus, which looks good,
> > but I'm not 100% convinced.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
>
> Less than $200 per seat or less than $200 TOTAL for the entire
> firewall solution??

If it's less than $200 then it's not a firewall.

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Leythos [ Mo, 05 November 2007 17:06 ] [ ID #1863235 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

Hi,

ZyWALL2 Plus is perfect for less than 10 users network, but you are
talking about 50 PCs in your network.

I think you have to think of ZyWALL 35 or even ZyWALL 70 for your
network and I prefer that you go with UTM models for full Internet
protection ( Anti-virus, Anti-Spam, IDS/IPS, Content filtering,
firewalling .... etc) which is supported on ZyXEL ZyWALL UTM models
like 5,35,70 and 1050.


Spider,

www.networkingland.com/utm_vendors.htm


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spider [ Mo, 05 November 2007 22:17 ] [ ID #1863260 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

In article <spider.2zlg9m [at] mail [at] networkingland.com>, spider.2zlg9m [at] mail
says...
>
> Hi,
>
> ZyWALL2 Plus is perfect for less than 10 users network, but you are
> talking about 50 PCs in your network.
>
> I think you have to think of ZyWALL 35 or even ZyWALL 70 for your
> network and I prefer that you go with UTM models for full Internet
> protection ( Anti-virus, Anti-Spam, IDS/IPS, Content filtering,
> firewalling .... etc) which is supported on ZyXEL ZyWALL UTM models
> like 5,35,70 and 1050.

And what happens when the load is increased....

My experience with ZyXel support is about the same as Dell support,
sucks.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free [at] rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Leythos [ Mo, 05 November 2007 22:45 ] [ ID #1863263 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

http://www.safesquid.com/html/portal.php?page=105
Sachin [ Di, 06 November 2007 10:49 ] [ ID #1864248 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

On Nov 5, 10:06 am, Leythos <v... [at] nowhere.lan> wrote:
> In article <1194277996.135676.233... [at] 22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
> sirus.co... [at] gmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 12:04 am, "LTKave... [at] gmail.com" <LTKave... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Good day. I'm starting a network consisting of 50 PCs through a
> > > satellite connection. I need a dedicated firewall which will be able
> > > to accomplish the following:
>
> > > -MAC Filtering for hardlined machines (the wireless router can handle
> > > MAC filtering for wireless)
> > > -Badwidth limits per MAC address for a specific time period
> > > -Logs of all traffic
> > > -Log specifically for bandwidth
> > > -Blocking of some P2P processes, but not all (don't allow gaming but
> > > do allow skype, etc)
> > > -DHCP
> > > -Normal DoS protection, etc
> > > -VPN is not important to us
>
> > > Any advice? I'm finding tons of equipment out there, but I'm hoping to
> > > spend less than $200. I've seen ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus, which looks good,
> > > but I'm not 100% convinced.
>
> > > Thanks for your help.
>
> > Less than $200 per seat or less than $200 TOTAL for the entire
> > firewall solution??
>
> If it's less than $200 then it's not a firewall.
>
> --
>
> Leythos
> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> spam999f... [at] rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

that's a ridiculous statement
amr [ Mi, 07 November 2007 01:07 ] [ ID #1864262 ]

Re: Firewall Selection Advice

Responding to the original Question the Juniper SSG 5 (Netscreen) is a
great choice for what you are wanting to do. It gives you Wireless
with multiple SSIDs, IDS/IPS, client filtering, spam and virus
filtering as well as IPSEC VPN termination.

It is going to cost you more than $200 but it is quite a bit cheaper
than offerings from Cisco.

The other you you could consider is going with a product you could
build from someplace like routerboard.com or on a software platform
such as any linux distro and use IPTABLES. Moonwall would be
something you would want to research of you were going to go the linux
route.

Hope this helps.

Josh
http://www.staticnat.com
joshobrien77 [ So, 11 November 2007 14:33 ] [ ID #1868178 ]
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