Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
you prefer the most? :) thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. Link is
at:
http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

Kentor wrote:
> Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> you prefer the most?
> http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

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Kentor wrote:

> Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> you prefer the most? thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. Link is
> at: http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

Top one looks like the roof has blown off in a storm.

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"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
news:53b4tjF1qktv1U2 [at] mid.individual.net...
| Kentor wrote:
| > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| > you prefer the most?
| > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
|
| You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

lol.

so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
asthetics. therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!

as for kentor, he's the biggest waste of ng space as i've ever seen. he
should download the fucking manual already or hire someone. at least he's
realized this; although in leu of payment, he's only begging for free help
right now...oh, and, he'll give you a nod on 'his' website that *you* design
and program for him.

lol again, though, at your suggestion bergamot. ;^)

Kentor wrote:
> Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> you prefer the most?
> http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

--
Berg

Kentor wrote:

> Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> you prefer the most? thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. Link is
> at: http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

Top one looks like the roof has blown off in a storm.

--
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Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
Geek of ~ HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python*/Apache/Linux

* = I'm getting there!

"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
news:53b4tjF1qktv1U2 [at] mid.individual.net...
| Kentor wrote:
| > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| > you prefer the most?
| > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
|
| You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

lol.

so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
asthetics. therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!

as for kentor, he's the biggest waste of ng space as i've ever seen. he
should download the fucking manual already or hire someone. at least he's
realized this; although in leu of payment, he's only begging for free help
right now...oh, and, he'll give you a nod on 'his' website that *you* design
and program for him.

lol again, though, at your suggestion bergamot. ;^)

Kentor wrote:
> Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> you prefer the most?
> http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

--
Berg

Kentor wrote:

> Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> you prefer the most? thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. Link is
> at: http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

Top one looks like the roof has blown off in a storm.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
Geek of ~ HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python*/Apache/Linux

* = I'm getting there!

"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
news:53b4tjF1qktv1U2 [at] mid.individual.net...
| Kentor wrote:
| > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| > you prefer the most?
| > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
|
| You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

lol.

so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
asthetics. therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!

as for kentor, he's the biggest waste of ng space as i've ever seen. he
should download the fucking manual already or hire someone. at least he's
realized this; although in leu of payment, he's only begging for free help
right now...oh, and, he'll give you a nod on 'his' website that *you* design
and program for him.

lol again, though, at your suggestion bergamot. ;^)

Steve wrote:
> "Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
> news:53b4tjF1qktv1U2 [at] mid.individual.net...
> | Kentor wrote:
> | > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> | > you prefer the most?
> | > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
> |
> | You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics
>
> so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
> asthetics.

It's got nothing to do with aesthetics.

The regulars in alt.design.graphics will give a different perspective on
the query, such as the appropriateness of the particular graphic design
for the intended purpose, or how it suits the particular business.

> therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
> what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!

Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
you'll get more useful input.

--
Berg

Steve wrote:
> "Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
> news:53b4tjF1qktv1U2 [at] mid.individual.net...
> | Kentor wrote:
> | > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
> | > you prefer the most?
> | > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
> |
> | You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics
>
> so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
> asthetics.

It's got nothing to do with aesthetics.

The regulars in alt.design.graphics will give a different perspective on
the query, such as the appropriateness of the particular graphic design
for the intended purpose, or how it suits the particular business.

> therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
> what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!

Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
you'll get more useful input.

--
Berg

Message-ID: <53ce9gF1rlo2lU1 [at] mid.individual.net> from Bergamot contained
the following:

>Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
>worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
>you'll get more useful input.

Not if he just wants gut reaction and not analysis. But the best people
to ask would be the target audience
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Geoff Berrow wrote:
>
> But the best people to ask would be the target audience

That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups out,
I think.

--
Berg

"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
news:53cgmbF1s1l2dU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
| Geoff Berrow wrote:
| >
| > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
|
| That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups out,
| I think.

well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!

| > | You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics
| >
| > so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to
appreciate
| > asthetics.
|
| It's got nothing to do with aesthetics.
|
| The regulars in alt.design.graphics will give a different perspective on
| the query, such as the appropriateness of the particular graphic design
| for the intended purpose, or how it suits the particular business.

now THAT is funny. you like building strawmen?

| > therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
| > what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader
immediately!
|
| Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
| worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
| you'll get more useful input.

i'm not a geek...unless everyone is a geek. i suppose, by your logic,
graphic artists cannot be geeks.

attention all non-graphical people...wait, we are *all* graphical and are
very visually particular. it is more *marketing* than profession that drives
decisions like this. *sales* persons will have a better grasp of what is
going to have the best impact on the audience...NOT the graphic artist -
*sales* tells the artist what they'd like to see. i've not only created
graphics for sites, but i've called the shots as to what professional
graphics went into a site. that was how broad my umbrella has been as
project manager on several projects in the past.

finally, graphic artists are to 'appropriateness of the particular graphic
design for the intended purpose' as the software developer is to telling a
company what their business requirements are. neither drive business
decisions; they only facilitate. both the developer and the graphic artist,
in the end, are simply code-monkeys.

Steve wrote:
> "Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
> news:53cgmbF1s1l2dU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
> | Geoff Berrow wrote:
> | >
> | > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
> |
> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups out,
> | I think.
>
> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
>
>
Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!

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Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art [at] centralva.net> wrote in message
news:4a042$45d1202b$40cba7ac$30108 [at] NAXS.COM...
| Steve wrote:
| > "Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
| > news:53cgmbF1s1l2dU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
| > | Geoff Berrow wrote:
| > | >
| > | > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
| > |
| > | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
out,
| > | I think.
| >
| > well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
| > bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
| >
| >
| Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!

;^)

damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
10 to vote...

On Feb 12, 9:18 pm, "Steve" <no.... [at] example.com> wrote:
> "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4... [at] centralva.net> wrote in messagenews:4a042$45d1202b$40cba7ac$30108 [at] NAXS.COM...| Steve wrote:
>
> | > "Bergamot" <berga... [at] visi.com> wrote in message
> | >news:53cgmbF1s1l2dU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
> | > | Geoff Berrow wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
> | > |
> | > | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
> out,
> | > | I think.
> | >
> | > well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
> | > bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
> | >
> | >
> | Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
>
> ;^)

Kentor wrote:
> damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
> skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
> good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
> opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
> didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
> 10 to vote...
>

Yea, and if everyone posted off-topic comments like yours this newsgroup
would become completely worthless.

This is a *PHP* newsgroup - not your free personal advisers. The same
with the html and javascript newsgroups you cross-posted to.

Stop wasting everyone's time and bandwidth.

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Message-ID: <4a042$45d1202b$40cba7ac$30108 [at] NAXS.COM> from Jonathan N.
Little contained the following:

>> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups out,
>> | I think.
>>
>> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
>> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
>>
>>
>Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!

And my degree in multidisciplinary design?

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On Feb 12, 11:29 pm, "Kentor" <ken... [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
> skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
> good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
> opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
> didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
> 10 to vote...

Welcome to alt.html....

"Geoff Berrow" <blthecat [at] ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1403t29vgulc2376f3pp8jmuua0q22vk9o [at] 4ax.com...
| Message-ID: <4a042$45d1202b$40cba7ac$30108 [at] NAXS.COM> from Jonathan N.
| Little contained the following:
|
| >> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
out,
| >> | I think.
| >>
| >> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
| >> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
| >>
| >>
| >Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
|
| And my degree in multidisciplinary design?

roflmfao. i guess that's a more direct statement than my smily face
response. mine is a bit more specific than fine arts. as far as i know
anyway, one attends a fine arts school...however, i've never known of a
major of, nor conference of, 'fine arts'.

as for all my blathering, it is more in protest to some jerk-off saying that
developers (or any non-graphical artist) cannot discern what is
aesthetically pleasing and aligned with the image of a business...even
though the hoser...errr...poster *should* quit cross-posting in hopes of
getting a response. the suggestion to ask alt.graphics.design, minus the
inflamation, was valid.

cheers.

"Kentor" <kentor [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171340971.604747.257820 [at] v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com.. .
| damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
| skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
| good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
| opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
| didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
| 10 to vote...

you top-posting monkey!

if you had any kind of reading comprehension, you'd know that the drift of
what i'm balking about has NOTHING to do with you but EVERYTHING to do with
the dumbass comment about geeks and other non-graphic artists being able to
understand aesthetics and what business image alignment is.

as for you...you post nearly one question per day in alt.php (and have done
so for the past year at least) that is COMPLETELY covered in TFM. i think
we're a little frustrated with you - i, for one, am. and though highly
lacking in professionalism, your begging for someone to program your site
for you is perhaps the best indication that you are giving up the ghost of
programming...yeah! you should however, offer to COMPENSATE said person(s)
for their time and generousity.

as for the 'wtf do you comment'...well, i've had enough of your
bullshit...sometimes, i'll vent on the source. you can circumvent that
occasion by not being an idiot. then, we'll all be happy.

ok, dumpl'n?

"Kentor" <kentor [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171282983.203365.326280 [at] k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. .
| Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| you prefer the most? :) thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. Link is
| at:
| http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

i like NONE of them.

as for your programming, it is not the best idea to have seperate html pages
for each of your locations like montana or nova scotia. however, that's not
fatal. what is PISS POOR programming is going to the sign up page and seeing
'enter user name' in red when all i did was navigate to another tab...i
NEVER submitted anything for you to validate!!! ever hear of a form's
onsubmit event?

jesus christ! get some help.

Steve wrote:
> "Geoff Berrow" <blthecat [at] ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1403t29vgulc2376f3pp8jmuua0q22vk9o [at] 4ax.com...
> | Message-ID: <4a042$45d1202b$40cba7ac$30108 [at] NAXS.COM> from Jonathan N.
> | Little contained the following:
> |
> | >> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
> out,
> | >> | I think.
> | >>
> | >> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not have
> | >> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
> | >>
> | >>
> | >Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
> |
> | And my degree in multidisciplinary design?
>
> roflmfao. i guess that's a more direct statement than my smily face
> response. mine is a bit more specific than fine arts. as far as i know
> anyway, one attends a fine arts school...however, i've never known of a
> major of, nor conference of, 'fine arts'.
>

What, am I understanding you correctly that there is no degree in Fine
Arts? I hope there is for the money I spent! ;-) It is a BFA, of course
we always a fun with substitution of the words in the initialism! One
can get a BFA in painting, drawing, printmaking... or in the
multidisciplinary area "General Fine Arts"...


--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Steve wrote:
>
> i suppose, by your logic,
> graphic artists cannot be geeks.

OK, poor choice of words on my part, but I'm not apologizing. And it
doesn't change the fact that the OP posted off-topic for php and JS
newsgroups. alt.design.graphics is still a more appropriate newsgroup
for his type of query.

--
Berg

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>
> Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!

Fine arts and graphic arts are 2 different things.

--
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"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art [at] centralva.net> wrote in message
news:832b7$45d1d671$40cba7a7$21207 [at] NAXS.COM...
| Steve wrote:
| > "Geoff Berrow" <blthecat [at] ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message
| > news:1403t29vgulc2376f3pp8jmuua0q22vk9o [at] 4ax.com...
| > | Message-ID: <4a042$45d1202b$40cba7ac$30108 [at] NAXS.COM> from Jonathan N.
| > | Little contained the following:
| > |
| > | >> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these
newsgroups
| > out,
| > | >> | I think.
| > | >>
| > | >> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! fuck, i'd not
have
| > | >> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
| > |
| > | And my degree in multidisciplinary design?
| >
| > roflmfao. i guess that's a more direct statement than my smily face
| > response. mine is a bit more specific than fine arts. as far as i know
| > anyway, one attends a fine arts school...however, i've never known of a
| > major of, nor conference of, 'fine arts'.
| >
|
| What, am I understanding you correctly that there is no degree in Fine
| Arts? I hope there is for the money I spent! ;-) It is a BFA, of course
| we always a fun with substitution of the words in the initialism! One
| can get a BFA in painting, drawing, printmaking... or in the
| multidisciplinary area "General Fine Arts"...

and now i know. ;^)

cheers

"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
news:53e40bF1s5kmrU2 [at] mid.individual.net...
| Jonathan N. Little wrote:
| >
| > Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
|
| Fine arts and graphic arts are 2 different things.

however both blow your theory that questions about aesthetics and marketing
are shots-in-the-dark in this news group...right out of the water. the other
oppinions you've expressed in this thread are equally ill-advised.

"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
news:53e3vdF1s5kmrU1 [at] mid.individual.net...
| Steve wrote:
| >
| > i suppose, by your logic,
| > graphic artists cannot be geeks.
|
| OK, poor choice of words on my part, but I'm not apologizing. And it
| doesn't change the fact that the OP posted off-topic for php and JS
| newsgroups. alt.design.graphics is still a more appropriate newsgroup
| for his type of query.

i couldn't care less if you appologized or not. you should, however, pay
attention to what you say as more often than not, you make yourself seem
illogical and insulting. consider the difference between:

'alt.design.graphics is still a more appropriate newsgroup for this type of
query.'

versus:

'You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics'

the former is something of which i'm in complete agreement. the latter
suggestion is lost completely because one finds it hard to overlook the
first pompous assed comment to get to it. i would have let that go after my
first response to such an innane comment had your second remark not been
even more insulting:

'Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
worthless.'

words mean something. make yours count as you intend them. so far, they've
only served in portraying you as an asshole - which i'm sure is not the
case.

Steve wrote:

> however, i've never known of a major of, nor conference of, 'fine arts'.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/slade/courses/ugstudies.html
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/fine_art/info/ugcs/bafa.html
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/depts/art/BA.html
http://www.cofa.unsw.edu.au/futurestudents/alldegreeprograms /program_0001.html
etc, etc...

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The bottom two are the best in my opinion. A suggestion though: on
the 3rd pic make the door of the house extend to the bottom of the
house, it looks weird otherwise. Also match the angle of the top of
the door with the angle of the bottom of the house.

Just my 2 pennies.

Bergamot wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
>
> Fine arts and graphic arts are 2 different things.
>

Aesthetics are the same, just Graphic Artists focus on design for the
moment while Fine Artist focus on design for in perpetuity ;-)

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Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On Feb 13, 10:43 am, "Steve" <no.... [at] example.com> wrote:
> words mean something. make yours count as you intend them. so far, they've
> only served in portraying you as an asshole - which i'm sure is not the
> case.

Man you are WAY to serious about all this....

"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art [at] centralva.net> wrote in message
news:6626f$45d1f07c$40cba7b0$3169 [at] NAXS.COM...
| Bergamot wrote:
| > Jonathan N. Little wrote:
| >> Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
| >
| > Fine arts and graphic arts are 2 different things.
| >
|
| Aesthetics are the same, just Graphic Artists focus on design for the
| moment while Fine Artist focus on design for in perpetuity ;-)

jonathan,

i think what bergamot was doing was projecting. what he really should have
said was, "i'm not a graphics guy and everyone else in alt.php is *just like
me*, so *we* haven't a clue...go try alt.graphics.design." so really, the
rest of his insults were more self-abasement. he doesn't get what aesthetics
are.

;^)

"Travis Newbury" <TravisNewbury [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171387616.630315.322970 [at] p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com.. .
| On Feb 13, 10:43 am, "Steve" <no.... [at] example.com> wrote:
| > words mean something. make yours count as you intend them. so far,
they've
| > only served in portraying you as an asshole - which i'm sure is not the
| > case.
|
| Man you are WAY to serious about all this....

no, just mildly irritated. you should see me get a bit more disjointed. ;^)

Steve wrote:
> "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art [at] centralva.net> wrote in message
> news:6626f$45d1f07c$40cba7b0$3169 [at] NAXS.COM...
> | Bergamot wrote:
> | > Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> | >> Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
> | >
> | > Fine arts and graphic arts are 2 different things.
> | >
> |
> | Aesthetics are the same, just Graphic Artists focus on design for the
> | moment while Fine Artist focus on design for in perpetuity ;-)
>
> jonathan,
>
> i think what bergamot was doing was projecting. what he really should have
> said was, "i'm not a graphics guy and everyone else in alt.php is *just like
> me*, so *we* haven't a clue...go try alt.graphics.design." so really, the
> rest of his insults were more self-abasement. he doesn't get what aesthetics
> are.
>
> ;^)
>
>
I'm not really upset, just having fun! There is a long rivalry between
Fine Arts and Graphic Arts...

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Steve wrote:
>
> the rest of his insults

Do you have such a fragile ego that you were actually insulted by
anything I said? If so, I suggest developing a little thicker skin.

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Berg

"Bergamot" <bergamot [at] visi.com> wrote in message
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| Steve wrote:
| >
| > the rest of his insults
|
| Do you have such a fragile ego that you were actually insulted by
| anything I said? If so, I suggest developing a little thicker skin.

psychology wasn't a field of your collegeate interest either, i see.
contrary to how you portray it, the more in touch one is with one's ego, the
more perceptible insults become. the ego is the assimilation of what is
deemed normanative (behaviour, believe systems, cultures, etc.). were my ego
fragile, you should expect to see over-reaction or irrational responses...to
just about every stimuli. as it is, i recognize what you've said as
insulting...and as a response, have merely pointed out to you what it is
that i see as the insult and caution you that, though it is really not a big
deal to me, your word choices are at the deep end of poor.

now had you more a sense of ego, you'd understand that you could be
perceived as being insulting. it is far worse to be absent mindedly
insulting than to have the intent coupled with delivery. had you more sense
of propriety, you'd actually care about being insulting: whether
deliberately or mistakenly.

as for your suggestions...do you really think i'd take anything you say
seriously? don't worry about my skin's thickness. pay more attention to the
silly things you say. i automatically start filtering bullshit when someone
starts shoveling it (ego at work, btw). so, i've not been but temporally and
casually engaged thus far anyway.