+ in URL causing problems

+ in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 21:03:21 von Ross Winter

Hi i have noticed in my IIS logs that there are 404 errors when crawlers use
+ signs to delimit search strings, this is only more recently.

IE

/courses/NET+Framework+Course.htm ' causes errors

if they use spaces

/courses/NET%20Framework%20Course.htm

Then no problems.

Is there a setting I need to make to enable this kind or url format ?


Cheers
--
Terry Burns

Re: + in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 21:09:41 von jreid

How many pages of yours have spaces in them? Would it be easier to
rename them without spaces?

Re: + in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 21:15:38 von Ross Winter

Good point, but there are thousands of indexes already out there which do
make it, but there are more frequently failures lately. Is there no
solution, it seems a bit odd to me.

--
Terry Burns

"blackstaronline.net" wrote in message
news:1140206981.781851.39710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> How many pages of yours have spaces in them? Would it be easier to
> rename them without spaces?
>

Re: + in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 21:27:47 von jreid

How are the links on your pages set up? When you link to the spaced
pages is it;

/courses/NET%20Framework%20Course.htm

or

/courses/NET Framework Course.htm

I know your looking for a simple "flip a switch" on the server and make
it work. I don't know of any setting that will make that happen. (I'm
not saying there isn't one, I just don't know of any)

I would think if your links contain '%20' in them, when the crawlers
follow the link it should work. The only scenario I can think of is if
your link has physical spaces in it so some specific crawlers
automatically enter a '+' in the string. But I'm not sure.

I'm interested to see what other people have to say about this.


Jeremy Reid
http://blackstaronline.net/hgtit

Re: + in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 21:45:46 von Ross Winter

Well, I bit the bullet and changed them to spaceless links. Better safe than
sorry, I will probably miss a few hits, but what the hell. The links did
have %20 in them, its just that 'SOME' crawlers seem to translate this to a
+ sign which does not work on my server.

Thanks for trying to help anyway, much appreciated. ( I would still like to
see if there is a switch tho )

Cheers

--
Terry Burns

"blackstaronline.net" wrote in message
news:1140208067.238628.281110@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. .
> How are the links on your pages set up? When you link to the spaced
> pages is it;
>
> /courses/NET%20Framework%20Course.htm
>
> or
>
> /courses/NET Framework Course.htm
>
> I know your looking for a simple "flip a switch" on the server and make
> it work. I don't know of any setting that will make that happen. (I'm
> not saying there isn't one, I just don't know of any)
>
> I would think if your links contain '%20' in them, when the crawlers
> follow the link it should work. The only scenario I can think of is if
> your link has physical spaces in it so some specific crawlers
> automatically enter a '+' in the string. But I'm not sure.
>
> I'm interested to see what other people have to say about this.
>
>
> Jeremy Reid
> http://blackstaronline.net/hgtit
>

Re: + in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 22:02:11 von George Ter-Saakov

2 Tips.
1. Make a custom 404 error. So you will not miss hits.
2. Use '-' minus sign to separate words. Not spaces. Search engines do
actually take it as separator.

George.


"Terry Burns" wrote in message
news:OitQHNANGHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Well, I bit the bullet and changed them to spaceless links. Better safe
> than sorry, I will probably miss a few hits, but what the hell. The links
> did have %20 in them, its just that 'SOME' crawlers seem to translate this
> to a + sign which does not work on my server.
>
> Thanks for trying to help anyway, much appreciated. ( I would still like
> to see if there is a switch tho )
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Terry Burns
>
> "blackstaronline.net" wrote in message
> news:1140208067.238628.281110@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. .
>> How are the links on your pages set up? When you link to the spaced
>> pages is it;
>>
>> /courses/NET%20Framework%20Course.htm
>>
>> or
>>
>> /courses/NET Framework Course.htm
>>
>> I know your looking for a simple "flip a switch" on the server and make
>> it work. I don't know of any setting that will make that happen. (I'm
>> not saying there isn't one, I just don't know of any)
>>
>> I would think if your links contain '%20' in them, when the crawlers
>> follow the link it should work. The only scenario I can think of is if
>> your link has physical spaces in it so some specific crawlers
>> automatically enter a '+' in the string. But I'm not sure.
>>
>> I'm interested to see what other people have to say about this.
>>
>>
>> Jeremy Reid
>> http://blackstaronline.net/hgtit
>>
>
>

Re: + in URL causing problems

am 17.02.2006 22:58:02 von jreid

Ya, the custom 404 error is a great idea. That way they still have
access to your site without getting the generic page not found error
message. Removing the spaces is the best way and it's only a matter
of time before all the crawlers come back around and update their
indexes with the new names.

Jeremy
http://blackstaronline.net/hgtit