The problem with Zone Alarm

The problem with Zone Alarm is that it was purchased and is now owned
by Check Point, an Israeli outfit suspected of being in the espionage
racket for Mossad.

Check Point Software Technologies Ltd
3A Jabotinsky St., Diamond Tower
Ramat Gan, 52520, Israel

If you want to trust an application with such suspicious ownership that is
supposed to be protecting your computer, and that ALSO stays in contact
with home base at all times, that's your perogative.

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Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

elaich wrote:
> The problem with Zone Alarm is that it was purchased and is now owned
> by Check Point, an Israeli outfit suspected of being in the espionage
> racket for Mossad.
>
> Check Point Software Technologies Ltd
> 3A Jabotinsky St., Diamond Tower
> Ramat Gan, 52520, Israel
>
> If you want to trust an application with such suspicious ownership that is
> supposed to be protecting your computer, and that ALSO stays in contact
> with home base at all times, that's your perogative.
>

You can select not to allow the program to send usage statistics though.

Or do you mean something else?

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Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

FWIW, I wish some of our intelligence agencies worked as well as Mossad!

Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

* elaich :
> The problem with Zone Alarm is that it was purchased and is now owned
> by Check Point, an Israeli outfit suspected of being in the espionage
> racket for Mossad.
>
> Check Point Software Technologies Ltd
> 3A Jabotinsky St., Diamond Tower
> Ramat Gan, 52520, Israel
>
> If you want to trust an application with such suspicious ownership that is
> supposed to be protecting your computer, and that ALSO stays in contact
> with home base at all times, that's your perogative.
>

Go put your tinfoil hat on elaich they're watching you.

Jason

Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

elaich wrote:

> The problem with Zone Alarm is that it was purchased and is now owned
> by Check Point, an Israeli outfit suspected of being in the espionage
> racket for Mossad.
>
> Check Point Software Technologies Ltd
> 3A Jabotinsky St., Diamond Tower
> Ramat Gan, 52520, Israel
>
> If you want to trust an application with such suspicious ownership that is
> supposed to be protecting your computer, and that ALSO stays in contact
> with home base at all times, that's your perogative.
>

Yeah.

Check Point also owns more enterprise firewall market share than anyone
else. Be very afraid. Or paranoid, as applicable.

Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

Jason wrote in news:QrqdnQFFVe79wAPfRVn-jw@rogers.com:

> Go put your tinfoil hat on elaich they're watching you.

I guess your the type who would also probably claim that Real Networks
doesn't use RealPlayer as spyware. No reason for me to worry, as I wouldn't
use ZA to begin with.

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Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

* elaich :
> Jason wrote in news:QrqdnQFFVe79wAPfRVn-jw@rogers.com:
>
>> Go put your tinfoil hat on elaich they're watching you.
>
> I guess your the type who would also probably claim that Real Networks
> doesn't use RealPlayer as spyware. No reason for me to worry, as I wouldn't
> use ZA to begin with.
>

No your just being overly paronid. You said it's owned by a company
suspected of dealing with Mossad. Key word there is suspected, and even
if they have dealt with Mossad that's still no good reason not to use a
product.

Jason

Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

NO PARANOIA - NO SECURITY

ELAICH, I'm with you brother 100%!

Julian
"Triffid" wrote in message
news:N3une.27822$_r1.837744@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>
> elaich wrote:
>
> > The problem with Zone Alarm is that it was purchased and is now owned
> > by Check Point, an Israeli outfit suspected of being in the espionage
> > racket for Mossad.
> >
> > Check Point Software Technologies Ltd
> > 3A Jabotinsky St., Diamond Tower
> > Ramat Gan, 52520, Israel
> >
> > If you want to trust an application with such suspicious ownership that
is
> > supposed to be protecting your computer, and that ALSO stays in contact
> > with home base at all times, that's your perogative.
> >
>
> Yeah.
>
> Check Point also owns more enterprise firewall market share than anyone
> else. Be very afraid. Or paranoid, as applicable.

Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

Taking a moment's reflection, Jason mused:
|
| No your just being overly paronid. You said it's owned by a company
| suspected of dealing with Mossad. Key word there is suspected, and
| even if they have dealt with Mossad that's still no good reason not
| to use a product.

Indeed. People likely use products every day from companies that
have had dealings with their country's respective security agencies.
It's not surprising that the top Isreali security company has consulted
with the Isreali security division is it? After all, they are both in
the same business to some degree.

Re: The problem with Zone Alarm

The following article appeared in Security Pro News (today I believe).
I paste it below :

Title: "Busted: Israelis Arrested For Industrial Espionage"

"It all began with Israeli author, Ammon Jacont, suspecting his
ex-son-in-law of spying on his computer and distributing unpublished
works on the Internet. The ensuing police investigation unraveled a
much larger case of industrial espionage that indicated blue chip
Israeli companies.

The gag order was lifted Monday by Israeli courts and 22 people have
been arrested at the conclusion of a six month investigation. The
alleged offenders are suspected of using Trojan horse software to spy
on their competition.

Security firm, 2bSecure led police to a server that held loads of
secrets from top Israeli companies.

The trade secrets were mostly about corporate strategies and were
obtained with Trojan software sold by Michael Ha'efrati to private
detectives Modi'in Ezrahi, Krochmal Zyika, and Pelosoff-Balil, who then
relayed the information to clients.

Corporate entities, YES satellite TV and mobile carriers Pele-Phone and
Cellcom have been indicated as three of those clients.

As for those spied upon, the list includes Hewlett-Packard, Ace
Hardware, Strauss-Elite food group, ad agencies Shalmor-Avnon-Amichav
and Reuveni-Pridan, PR agency Rani Rahav, water-cooler maker Tami 4,
Shekem Electric, Ace Buy & Build, Mayanot Eden, and Malam Systems.

"It's getting bigger every day," said Nir Nateev, head of the police
computer and cyber crime department in Tel Aviv. "In the end, there
will be dozens involved."

The alleged Trojan horse creator, Israeli Michael Ha'efrati, 41, who is
currently living in London, was arrested with his wife, Ruth
Brier-Ha'efrati. Israel is expected to ask for extradition.

Some spy software versions posed as a package of confidential documents
delivered through email. Once installed the program recorded
keystrokes, collected documents and emailed the data back to the London
registered server.

The potential consequences, because of the scope of companies involved,
including subsidiaries of giant Bezeq, are potentially devastating as
it may cause many international firms to be leery of doing business in
Israel.

"People don't like to invest in countries where companies do some very
unethical things," said Sever Plocker, a leading Israeli economic
commentator. "I think it is bad for Israel, bad for the image of Israel
and nothing to be proud about."