meta tags in foreign character sets
meta tags in foreign character sets
am 19.02.2005 08:39:44 von Jascinder
Hello,
When designing a web site with a foreign character set, ie, Japanese or
Chinese characters, should the
and , meta
tags be implanted with the foreign character set codes, or with "english"
characters?
thanks for any advice,
JS
Re: meta tags in foreign character sets
am 19.02.2005 09:10:07 von rf
"Jascinder" wrote
>
> When designing a web site with a foreign character set, ie, Japanese or
> Chinese characters, should the and , meta
> tags be implanted with the foreign character set codes, or with "english"
> characters?
That would depend on what you want your viewer to read when they look at the
title or find the site in google, and indeed what they search for (assuming
google pays attention to keywords which it probably does not).
Think like your viewer: You are Japanese. Would you expect to read English
in the sites title? (hint: many Japanese people do not speak, let alone read
English. Most certainly the taxi driver you get from the train station to
the hotel does not).
Re: meta tags in foreign character sets
am 19.02.2005 10:19:39 von Toby Inkster
Jascinder wrote:
> When designing a web site with a foreign character set, ie, Japanese or
> Chinese characters, should the
and , meta
> tags be implanted with the foreign character set codes, or with "english"
> characters?
If the page is aimed at Chinese or Japanese visitors, why would you want
to put the TITLE in English?
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Re: meta tags in foreign character sets
am 19.02.2005 11:18:11 von Robert Lambe
Jascinder wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When designing a web site with a foreign character set, ie, Japanese or
> Chinese characters, should the
and , meta
> tags be implanted with the foreign character set codes, or with "english"
> characters?
No of course not.
All the browsers I've come across can understand Japanese META tags just
fine. It helps if you declare the text encoding, either with a META tag or
a Content-Type HTTP header
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Re: meta tags in foreign character sets
am 21.02.2005 01:26:09 von Lauri Raittila
in alt.html, Philip Ronan wrote:
> Jascinder wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > When designing a web site with a foreign character set, ie, Japanese or
> > Chinese characters, should the
and , meta
> > tags be implanted with the foreign character set codes, or with "english"
> > characters?
>
> No of course not.
>
> All the browsers I've come across can understand Japanese META tags just
> fine.
What browser that you have come across have understood meta tags? What
way?
> It helps if you declare the text encoding, either with a META tag or
> a Content-Type HTTP header
Sounds that you almost have a clue?
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Lauri Raittila
Utrecht, NL.
Re: meta tags in foreign character sets
am 21.02.2005 10:54:33 von Robert Lambe
Lauri Raittila wrote:
> in alt.html, Philip Ronan wrote:
>
>> All the browsers I've come across can understand Japanese META tags just
>> fine.
>
> What browser that you have come across have understood meta tags? What
> way?
As far as I can tell, they *all* understand meta tags. I don't know *how*
they understand them -- perhaps you should ask the programmers that made
them.
If you're having problems, could you please explain in a bit more detail.
>> It helps if you declare the text encoding, either with a META tag or
>> a Content-Type HTTP header
>
> Sounds that you almost have a clue?
I translate Japanese for a living.
Shift_JIS and EUC are the two most common forms of text encoding for
Japanese web pages . If you're writing a Japanese web page, either specify
the Content-Type with an HTTP header like this:
Content-Type: text/html; charset=Shift_JIS
or with a meta tag like this:
That's all there is to it.
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Re: meta tags in foreign character sets
am 21.02.2005 20:18:30 von Lauri Raittila
in alt.html, Philip Ronan wrote:
> Lauri Raittila wrote:
>
> > in alt.html, Philip Ronan wrote:
> >
> >> All the browsers I've come across can understand Japanese META tags just
> >> fine.
> >
> > What browser that you have come across have understood meta tags? What
> > way?
>
> As far as I can tell, they *all* understand meta tags. I don't know *how*
> they understand them -- perhaps you should ask the programmers that made
> them.
>
> If you're having problems, could you please explain in a bit more detail.
Actually, I think I was thinking too faast. Some browsers actually do
understand some meta tags. They put them in DOM, and sometimes even use
the contents. But mostly, they are ignored...
> >> It helps if you declare the text encoding, either with a META tag or
> >> a Content-Type HTTP header
> >
> > Sounds that you almost have a clue?
>
> I translate Japanese for a living.
And it only helps if you declare encoding? I think that you *must*
declare encoding, or use character references. Otherwise, you don't get
japanise glyphs.
> Shift_JIS and EUC are the two most common forms of text encoding for
> Japanese web pages . If you're writing a Japanese web page, either specify
> the Content-Type with an HTTP header like this:
>
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=Shift_JIS
>
> or with a meta tag like this:
>
>
>
> That's all there is to it.
Of course, latter only works because good luck...
--
Lauri Raittila
Utrecht, NL.