Hours: full-time
Start date: Immediate
Salary: 25K

We are an exciting and growing New Media Agency specialising in
eCommerce and CMS driven websites.

We are currently looking to recruit a middle-weight web developer
specialising in LAMP based environment. The ideal candidate should
have at least 2 years of commercial experience and must have proven
experience in the following areas:

1 - Developing eCommerce websites.
2 - Hand coding of PHP/MySQL/HTML/CSS.
3 - Basic understanding of Javascript.
4 - Some experience with AJAX
5 - A understanding of usability and accessibility in websites.
6 - Good written and spoken English.

Apart from the above it would be useful to have the following skills:

1 - Experience with PHP/Flash integration.
2 - A creative eye and basic understanding of graphic packages like
Photoshop.
3 - An understanding of SEO principles.
4 - Client facing experience

You will be working from home and as such be expected to work without
supervision and work to deadlines. It will be necessary to attend
occasional technical/planning meetings as well as some client
meetings.

If you feel you are the person that we're looking for then please send
us your CV with a short cover letter to tell us why we should hire you
along with at least 3 examples of work you have completed with the
last 12 months to ann(at)rogueinteractive.co.uk

| Hours: full-time
| Start date: Immediate
| Salary: 25K

is anyone laughing harder than i am right now. perhaps the op would see the
same joke if this were put AFTER the following:

| proven experience in the following areas:
|
| 1 - Developing eCommerce websites.
| 2 - Hand coding of PHP/MySQL/HTML/CSS.
| 3 - Basic understanding of Javascript.
| 4 - Some experience with AJAX
| 5 - A understanding of usability and accessibility in websites.
| 6 - Good written and spoken English.

#6 ROFLMFAO !!! WELL written and spoken English...moron!
#5 ROFLMFAO !!! AN understanding of usability...
#2 ROFLMFAO !!! is there ANY OTHER WAY?

| useful to have the following skills:
|
| 1 - Experience with PHP/Flash integration.
| 2 - A creative eye and basic understanding of graphic packages like
| Photoshop.
| 3 - An understanding of SEO principles.
| 4 - Client facing experience

#4 ROFLMFAO !!! WTF is 'client facing?'

| You will be working from home and as such be expected to work without
| supervision and work to deadlines. It will be necessary to attend
| occasional technical/planning meetings as well as some client
| meetings.

so...YOU would reimburse for travel expenditures? ;^)

| If you feel you are the person that we're looking for then please send
| us your CV with a short cover letter to tell us why we should hire you
| along with at least 3 examples of work you have completed with the
| last 12 months to ann(at)rogueinteractive.co.uk

i would assume the reason WHY someone would apply is because they feel they
fit the bill, given what qualifications you have layed out...that, and
they're not wanting to make a descent living. do you expect they'll line up
for the change to place their provoscus in certain orifaces to make you feel
good about yourself/company?!

as for your grasp of reality as seen in your 'package', you are severely out
of touch. did you know the going rate for these *exact* qualifications
starts at around 40K u.s. in most regions of the states? did you know
regionally, that rate averages around 90K u.s. for those in san fransisco,
san diego, dallas, ny city (where php is dearly loved)?

i have a second job (first is software development too), i can make 25K with
ONE project that only takes THREE WEEKS to complete? and, that's not even
very mentally engaging work. oh, and my benefactor not only allows (even
encourages at times) me to charge them the going rate per hour (55 to 95
u.s.) for porting code from one project to another (which they've ALREADY
paid for), they also give me BONUSES of 25% of the total cost of the
project. did you miss the fact that that second job is as CONSULTANT...not a
normal EMPLOYEE? my experience is not out of the norm either. if we can
receive such wonderful compensation and appreciation from a company whom is
not our sole source of income, why should we expect less of the company for
whom it is?! treat your employees well. start off by making a REASONABLE
offer in salary!

you get what you pay for. if you are offering 25K PER ANUM, you aren't going
to like the results of the employee whom you have hired. the rest of us see
that 'package' as a joke...mainly because you don't see it as an insult -
which is wholly what it is.

best of luck though.

Message-ID: <hIvPh.34$fQ1.15 [at] newsfe12.lga> from Steve contained the
following:

>you get what you pay for. if you are offering 25K PER ANUM, you aren't going
>to like the results of the employee whom you have hired. the rest of us see
>that 'package' as a joke...mainly because you don't see it as an insult -
>which is wholly what it is.

It's not good money for that part of the country.

--
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"Geoff Berrow" <blthecat [at] ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Message-ID: <hIvPh.34$fQ1.15 [at] newsfe12.lga> from Steve contained the
| following:
|
| >you get what you pay for. if you are offering 25K PER ANUM, you aren't
going
| >to like the results of the employee whom you have hired. the rest of us
see
| >that 'package' as a joke...mainly because you don't see it as an insult -
| >which is wholly what it is.
|
| It's not good money for that part of the country.

over on the other side of the pond, i'd assume that price is even
worse...given the exchange rate.

> over on the other side of the pond, i'd assume that price is even
> worse...given the exchange rate.
>

They don't actually state what currency the salary it is. if it is in UK £
then that equates too $49,200

Steve wrote:
> | Hours: full-time
> | Start date: Immediate
> | Salary: 25K
>
> is anyone laughing harder than i am right now. perhaps the op would see the
> same joke if this were put AFTER the following:

rogueinteractive.co.uk is great britain
Crawley/Gatwick is Gatwick airport near Crawley noth of london
so the curency is pounds
that brings the amount to about 50.000 dolar
the rest of europe would be about 40.000 euro

>
> | proven experience in the following areas:
> |
> | 1 - Developing eCommerce websites.
> | 2 - Hand coding of PHP/MySQL/HTML/CSS.
> | 3 - Basic understanding of Javascript.
> | 4 - Some experience with AJAX
> | 5 - A understanding of usability and accessibility in websites.
> | 6 - Good written and spoken English.
>
> #6 ROFLMFAO !!! WELL written and spoken English...moron!
> #5 ROFLMFAO !!! AN understanding of usability...
> #2 ROFLMFAO !!! is there ANY OTHER WAY?

french belgium dutch german and so on , and not speak of irish scotish
(on great britains main land)

>
> | useful to have the following skills:
> |
> | 1 - Experience with PHP/Flash integration.
> | 2 - A creative eye and basic understanding of graphic packages like
> | Photoshop.
> | 3 - An understanding of SEO principles.
> | 4 - Client facing experience
>
> #4 ROFLMFAO !!! WTF is 'client facing?'

google for Client facing and a world opens for you
(job site's mention the words)
did you ever here of google ?????
>
> | You will be working from home and as such be expected to work without
> | supervision and work to deadlines. It will be necessary to attend
> | occasional technical/planning meetings as well as some client
> | meetings.
>
> so...YOU would reimburse for travel expenditures? ;^)

there is that tunnel between calais and ashford calld the canaltunnel
so even dutch belgium and french programmers could be there intime for
that meeting
witch explains the english spoken and written

>
> | If you feel you are the person that we're looking for then please send
> | us your CV with a short cover letter to tell us why we should hire you
> | along with at least 3 examples of work you have completed with the
> | last 12 months to ann(at)rogueinteractive.co.uk
>
> i would assume the reason WHY someone would apply is because they feel they
> fit the bill, given what qualifications you have layed out...that, and
> they're not wanting to make a descent living. do you expect they'll line up
> for the change to place their provoscus in certain orifaces to make you feel
> good about yourself/company?!
>
> as for your grasp of reality as seen in your 'package', you are severely out
> of touch. did you know the going rate for these *exact* qualifications
> starts at around 40K u.s. in most regions of the states? did you know
> regionally, that rate averages around 90K u.s. for those in san fransisco,
> san diego, dallas, ny city (where php is dearly loved)?

san fransisco, san diego, dallas, ny city ?????????
travel expenditures would be way of limmits
where are those city's anyway ???? usa i presume ????
don't confuse the usa with europe
in the usa there are states
in europe there are country's witch are verry diverent from each other
30.000 euro can be huge in one country and underpayd in an other
country "a" could have a nominal price of 300.000 euro for a house
while in coutry "b" that equal house would cost 100.000 euro
a polish programmer would proberbly ask 1/10 of what you ask and have a
better or equal live as you

>
> i have a second job (first is software development too), i can make 25K with
> ONE project that only takes THREE WEEKS to complete? and, that's not even
> very mentally engaging work. oh, and my benefactor not only allows (even
> encourages at times) me to charge them the going rate per hour (55 to 95
> u.s.) for porting code from one project to another (which they've ALREADY
> paid for), they also give me BONUSES of 25% of the total cost of the
> project. did you miss the fact that that second job is as CONSULTANT...not a
> normal EMPLOYEE? my experience is not out of the norm either. if we can
> receive such wonderful compensation and appreciation from a company whom is
> not our sole source of income, why should we expect less of the company for
> whom it is?! treat your employees well. start off by making a REASONABLE
> offer in salary!
>
> you get what you pay for. if you are offering 25K PER ANUM, you aren't going
> to like the results of the employee whom you have hired. the rest of us see
> that 'package' as a joke...mainly because you don't see it as an insult -
> which is wholly what it is.
>
> best of luck though.
>
hmmmmm just remember the world is bigger then the usa
and no i don't fit in that profile (Good written and spoken English.)

pacal

"peter" <submit [at] flexiwebhost.com> wrote in message
news:eumhvp$voc$1 [at] aioe.org...
|> over on the other side of the pond, i'd assume that price is even
| > worse...given the exchange rate.
| >
|
| They don't actually state what currency the salary it is. if it is in UK £
| then that equates too $49,200

ahhh the wonders of headers. ;^)

| rogueinteractive.co.uk is great britain
| Crawley/Gatwick is Gatwick airport near Crawley noth of london
| so the curency is pounds
| that brings the amount to about 50.000 dolar
| the rest of europe would be about 40.000 euro

still not very appealing, is it.

| > | proven experience in the following areas:
| > |
| > | 1 - Developing eCommerce websites.
| > | 2 - Hand coding of PHP/MySQL/HTML/CSS.
| > | 3 - Basic understanding of Javascript.
| > | 4 - Some experience with AJAX
| > | 5 - A understanding of usability and accessibility in websites.
| > | 6 - Good written and spoken English.
| >
| > #6 ROFLMFAO !!! WELL written and spoken English...moron!
| > #5 ROFLMFAO !!! AN understanding of usability...
| > #2 ROFLMFAO !!! is there ANY OTHER WAY?
|
| french belgium dutch german and so on , and not speak of irish scotish
| (on great britains main land)

even more reason to speak and write in a more formal fashion...such as using
WELL instead of GOOD. it's like knowing the difference between 'i feel bad'
and 'i feel badly'. native speakers will know what you mean, while others
may misinterpret what was said...which may work out 'badly' in some
contexts.

| > | useful to have the following skills:
| > |
| > | 1 - Experience with PHP/Flash integration.
| > | 2 - A creative eye and basic understanding of graphic packages like
| > | Photoshop.
| > | 3 - An understanding of SEO principles.
| > | 4 - Client facing experience
| >
| > #4 ROFLMFAO !!! WTF is 'client facing?'
|
| google for Client facing and a world opens for you
| (job site's mention the words)
| did you ever here of google ?????

well, i've not been on "job site's" web page - see how important WELL spoken
and written english is. as i have all of my work refered to me, no, i'm not
so privy to jargon used on "job sites" that purvey them.

| > | You will be working from home and as such be expected to work without
| > | supervision and work to deadlines. It will be necessary to attend
| > | occasional technical/planning meetings as well as some client
| > | meetings.
| >
| > so...YOU would reimburse for travel expenditures? ;^)
|
| there is that tunnel between calais and ashford calld the canaltunnel
| so even dutch belgium and french programmers could be there intime for
| that meeting
| witch explains the english spoken and written

wow. so were i to work for this fellow, your response really doesn't address
much. and, to my detriment as well - as a ticket across the pond would add
up to an expensive trip.

as for the "wellness" of your spoken/written english, do you not see you've
failed to support either case and have illogically mixed arguments, i.e. "it
is a short hop from here to there, thus the need for
english/spoken/written." bring it home with better linguistics.

| > | If you feel you are the person that we're looking for then please send
| > | us your CV with a short cover letter to tell us why we should hire you
| > | along with at least 3 examples of work you have completed with the
| > | last 12 months to ann(at)rogueinteractive.co.uk
| >
| > i would assume the reason WHY someone would apply is because they feel
they
| > fit the bill, given what qualifications you have layed out...that, and
| > they're not wanting to make a descent living. do you expect they'll line
up
| > for the change to place their provoscus in certain orifaces to make you
feel
| > good about yourself/company?!
| >
| > as for your grasp of reality as seen in your 'package', you are severely
out
| > of touch. did you know the going rate for these *exact* qualifications
| > starts at around 40K u.s. in most regions of the states? did you know
| > regionally, that rate averages around 90K u.s. for those in san
fransisco,
| > san diego, dallas, ny city (where php is dearly loved)?
|
| san fransisco, san diego, dallas, ny city ?????????
| travel expenditures would be way of limmits

you'd have to be from another planet not to know at least one of those
cities! come on! you've never heard of new york city? lol.

and, btw, watch out for those LIMMITS (especially OF limmits). ;^)

| where are those city's anyway ???? usa i presume ????

head popped out of ass suddenly?

| don't confuse the usa with europe
| in the usa there are states
| in europe there are country's witch are verry diverent from each other
| 30.000 euro can be huge in one country and underpayd in an other
| country "a" could have a nominal price of 300.000 euro for a house
| while in coutry "b" that equal house would cost 100.000 euro
| a polish programmer would proberbly ask 1/10 of what you ask and have a
| better or equal live as you

that's what well written/spoken english practitioners call a 'run-on
sentence'. google should be on your priority list for that phrase about now.
regardless of where one lives globally, everyone knows that to be
'purchasing power'...or by some other common term. further, everyone
experiences it. so common it the understanding of this phenomenon, it
puzzles my why you would seek to explain it here. sorry, for me, the 25K UK
translation may very well be around 40K USD...it's still not very much.

| >
| > i have a second job (first is software development too), i can make 25K
with
| > ONE project that only takes THREE WEEKS to complete? and, that's not
even
| > very mentally engaging work. oh, and my benefactor not only allows (even
| > encourages at times) me to charge them the going rate per hour (55 to 95
| > u.s.) for porting code from one project to another (which they've
ALREADY
| > paid for), they also give me BONUSES of 25% of the total cost of the
| > project. did you miss the fact that that second job is as
CONSULTANT...not a
| > normal EMPLOYEE? my experience is not out of the norm either. if we can
| > receive such wonderful compensation and appreciation from a company whom
is
| > not our sole source of income, why should we expect less of the company
for
| > whom it is?! treat your employees well. start off by making a REASONABLE
| > offer in salary!
| >
| > you get what you pay for. if you are offering 25K PER ANUM, you aren't
going
| > to like the results of the employee whom you have hired. the rest of us
see
| > that 'package' as a joke...mainly because you don't see it as an
insult -
| > which is wholly what it is.
| >
| > best of luck though.
| >
| hmmmmm just remember the world is bigger then the usa
| and no i don't fit in that profile (Good written and spoken English.)

who said i'd forgotten? and, it is obvious that you don't fit the
profile...but i give you credit for trying.

cheers.